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Norway calls puberty blockers experimental

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 10/03/2023 09:40

It appears that the Norwegian Healthcare Investigation Board has stated that puberty blockers etc. are experimental and not evidence based.

https://twitter.com/segm_ebm/status/1634032333618819073

Finally the right questions are being asked about the appropriateness of irreversible treatments on children and the evidence to support them.

In the UK Cass questioned challenge the lack of evidence. In Sweden the Karolinska Institute stopped using puberty blockers. Now Norway is reviewing their use.

It's interesting that increased scientific scrutiny and rigour increasingly seem to lead to the same outcome.

Norway calls puberty blockers experimental
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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 10/03/2023 09:41

Sorry title should read
Norway calls puberty blockers experimental.

I've asked MN to amend

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TrombonesAreNotBones · 10/03/2023 09:53

Thank you Chaz, good to see another country looking again at pbs.

Genesis1v27 · 10/03/2023 09:57

Very positive news, especially for Norwegian children and their parents.

It's interesting that increased scientific scrutiny and rigour increasingly seem to lead to the same outcome.

Isn't it just? As if the affirmation model is not based on evidence or science at all.

There's another thread on this here:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4759995-norway-deems-gender-affirmative-care-experimental

334bu · 10/03/2023 10:01

Great news.

Chersfrozenface · 10/03/2023 10:06

Particularly good news in We-Will-Prosecute-You-If-You-State-Biological-Reality Norway.

ditalini · 10/03/2023 10:08

I wonder when they'll start claiming that gender is special and can't be held to the usual rules of scientific investigation and proof?

Quite soon I think.

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 10/03/2023 11:13

What I find interesting as well is that Norway, Sweden and the U.K. are some of the most socially liberal countries in the world. Perhaps rushing to sterilise children rather than talking to them isn’t the liberal approach after all.https://www.kcl.ac.uk/policy-institute/assets/social-attitudes-in-the-uk-and-beyond-pub01-116.pdf

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OneMorePlant · 12/03/2023 14:48

OMG I missed this. This is so amazing! Norway has been completely captured and finally some sense

Happy days!

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 12/03/2023 14:59

That is very good news.

MrGHardy · 12/03/2023 17:03

Well that makes it all out of Sweden, Finland, and Norway.

rioseco · 12/03/2023 17:13

Made my day! So many chinks and pushbacks.

Oblomov23 · 12/03/2023 17:44

Good. Hopefully other countries will follow suit.

Rainbowshit · 12/03/2023 17:50

This is great news.

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 12/03/2023 18:38

It made me think of the Keira Bell case when it was clear that GIDS had collected little or no meaningful evidence. How can you engage in a treatment protocol for children without monitoring if it actually works.

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Ingenieur · 12/03/2023 20:31

rather than cherry-picking studies

Too right!

Beddfellows · 12/03/2023 21:14

The SNP likes to think of Scotland as a Scandinavian style country...

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