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Feminism: Sex & gender discussions

A Female Misogynist

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MarthaLovesMatthew · 02/07/2010 19:24

Hi,

I've only posted on the feminism forum once or twice but I've been lurking for a while now.

My sister sent me a link to a blog today and I really honestly could not believe what I read.

I would love to hear the MN feminists views on how to fight against this sort of thing...

I'm perhaps naive but I can't believe a woman could really write such a thing.

This surely is very rare and extreme?? At least I hope so.

fullofgraceseasonedwithsalt.blogspot.com/2010/06/wife-whisperer-is-back.html

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SandyBits · 02/07/2010 19:28

Not going to read the link (virus protection down) but I'll give you an example of a female misogynist Warning- link may possibly induce anger. And who knew she had her own website

SandyBits · 02/07/2010 19:29

And may I be the first to roffle at 'Katie, 32'. ANd the rest, love

secunda · 02/07/2010 19:43

Haha - she was on telly once and everyone told her she was a cunt. She thinks she's soooo profound!

MarthaLovesMatthew · 02/07/2010 19:45

sandy

Oh dear, that was a little anger inducing. Who knew that she was the face of 'new feminism'?!

secunda do you mean the woman whose blog I linked to, or our 'friend' Kate?

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secunda · 02/07/2010 19:46

well both. But I meant Katie.

lifeissweet · 02/07/2010 19:47

Amazingly, Sandy, she could well be 32. She was at Uni a year ahead of me and I am 31.

Still a twat, though.

SandyBits · 02/07/2010 19:51

Fucking hell. I have had the pleasure of seeing her up close a few times, and she seriously needs to stay out of the sun in that case

MillyR · 02/07/2010 19:55

I don't understand why you have come on a feminist section to call a woman a cunt and a twat.

MarthaLovesMatthew · 02/07/2010 21:38

Not sure if you mean me Milly, although I haven't called anyone any names.

I started this thread just to ask what feminism and feminists can do to fight against misogyny that is employed by women to hurt other women, an example being the blog I linked to.

I also was curious to know if this kind of thing is common, if anyone else has come across such stuff or if it is rare.

I'm sorry if my OP came across badly.

I really was just looking to hear some other people's (feminists) views on how to fight misogyny from women.

Didn't mean to offend...sorry if I did.

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Just13moreyearstogo · 02/07/2010 21:52

It is hard to believe that the 'wife whisperer' was written by a woman. I would write it off as representative of the misguided beliefs of a few fundamentalist Christians. I'm not sure views such as these are particularly prevalent. Of far more danger to feminism, in my opinion, are the scores of women who judge themselves and other women on the basis of how sexy they look.

MarthaLovesMatthew · 02/07/2010 22:30

Thats a really good point Just13...

I hadn't considered that before. I suppose you don't have to look v. far at all in our society to find alot of women engaging in misogynistic behaviour.

I suppose I just found the misogyny in that blog so outrageous, so unashamed.

It really shocked me.

I hope it isn't written by a woman....

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BoneyBackJefferson · 02/07/2010 22:45

Its not a new concept.

There was a similar (exactly the same) thing about using dog training methods to train men a few years back.

earwicga · 02/07/2010 22:56

This type of Christianism isn't that unusual in the US. How do you think George Bush got elected?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_right

How to fight it? Complete seperation between church and state, especially in education.

earwicga · 02/07/2010 23:00

There are also a few of these Christianists in our current government, Nadine Dorries for one.

overmydeadbody · 02/07/2010 23:00

Good Lord Marhta, please tell me that link wasn't written by a woman?![shok]

It must be very rare and eztreme indeed, this is certainly not mainstream thinking.

How horrible.

MarthaLovesMatthew · 02/07/2010 23:04

over

I hope it wasn't written by a woman! I don't know though, I was sent the link only today.

It is shocking though I know. I was completely taken aback when I read it.

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overmydeadbody · 02/07/2010 23:08

It's gotta be a very very minority view.

Am still shocked and disgusted at the analogy between women and bitches

MillyR · 02/07/2010 23:23

No, Martha, I didn't mean you.

Sakura · 03/07/2010 13:02

"Realise that your reproductive rights utterly trample on men's reproductive rights"

with a link to:
"Because the basis of government is force--its stability rests upon its physical power to enforce its laws; therefore it is inexpedient to give the vote to women. Immunity from service in executing the law would make most women irresponsible voters.

Because the suffrage is not a question of right or of justice, but of policy and expediency; and if there is no question of right or of justice, there is no case for woman suffrage."

Either it's a fat man called Dave
or
It's a woman filled with self-loathing or some sort of psychotic block as to the reality of her sex's oppression--to be pitied rather than anything else. BEst ignored.

sarah293 · 03/07/2010 13:07

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MarthaLovesMatthew · 03/07/2010 15:38

Sakura

I think you're probably right. I should just ignore it...it's funny how certain thing can just bother you intensely.

It's really got to me for some reason.

How people can say the western world doesn't need feminism anymore in the face of stuff like this is beyond me...

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TheBride · 03/07/2010 16:48

i dont think "full of grace" is a woman. There's something about the tone and the structure which is more indicative of a male writer. The "voice" of this piece is overwhelmingly male.

I suspect this is some dodgy US Christian fundamentalist group using "Grace" as a front so that women will be more accepting of "her" viewpoint.

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ImSoNotTelling · 03/07/2010 17:12

The profile on that full of grace thing says the writer is female

it also says "Full of Grace, Seasoned with Salt, chronicles the renewing of my mind from worldliness to Godliness. It is a miscellany of thoughts arising out of my newly found life in Christ and Marriage. "

Aha. And then

"Inspired by Colossians 4:6, and in disgust of our culture's use of crude language to communicate, I hope to provide a forum where myself and others can better understand what it means to speak with grace and salt."

So where does referring to women as bitches fit in with that I wonder

ImSoNotTelling · 03/07/2010 17:13

Hahahahaha

She has a topic called "feminists are annoying".

it's just over the "homemaking" section

MarthaLovesMatthew · 03/07/2010 17:22

ImSoNotTelling

I know! That angered me beyond belief.

I'm not normally the type to be easily annoyed by things out of my control, but this has really riled me up. I even sent her a comment about it!

But how can this kind of stuff even begin to be tackled? Or do feminists and feminism just have to accept that some people are a lost cause?

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