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mardirousse · 2026-10-21T13:18:51+00:00

[[https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/oct/21/washington-anti-trans-sports-genital-exams https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/oct/21/washington-anti-trans-sports-genital-exams]]. I'm appalled at the Guardian. To claim that protecting the female category for school sports will require girls to undergo genital checks is disgraceful. What pediatrician doesn't know the sex of their patients?

nicepotoftea · 23/10/2026 12:24

TempestTost · 23/10/2026 02:54

I think the important thing here may be that this is impacting low level children's sports. And you are a lot less likely to see people resorting to genetic testing for that.

The thing is though, it's actually pretty normal in the US for doctors to check the genitals on a yearly exam. So it's not likely to be massively out of order.

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Wouldn't a doctor have reason to believe that they knew a child's sex from the records without a genital exam?

Truinio · 23/10/2026 13:12

@Manxexile ParkRun gets away with it precisely because it isn’t affiliated to UKA, if it was it would have to follow their rules. I didn’t know about London Marathon - surely as it is a WMM race it has to abide by WA rules?

British Cycling, Cycling Time Trials, British Triathlon and the home nations Rugby Unions all brought in bans on males in the female category before their parent world bodies did. In the case of BC this was triggered by the Emily Bridges affair and the subsequent threatened walkout by several members of the elite squad prior to the 2024 Olympics.

nicepotoftea · 23/10/2026 13:16

Truinio · 23/10/2026 13:12

@Manxexile ParkRun gets away with it precisely because it isn’t affiliated to UKA, if it was it would have to follow their rules. I didn’t know about London Marathon - surely as it is a WMM race it has to abide by WA rules?

British Cycling, Cycling Time Trials, British Triathlon and the home nations Rugby Unions all brought in bans on males in the female category before their parent world bodies did. In the case of BC this was triggered by the Emily Bridges affair and the subsequent threatened walkout by several members of the elite squad prior to the 2024 Olympics.

The London Marathon differentiates between the elite race and the mass participation event.

I think the claim is that mass participation events are not races therefore the rules don't apply. The problem is that they then group and share the results by category, which rather suggests that people do care about their placing.

Truinio · 23/10/2026 13:24

oldtiredcyclist · 22/10/2026 21:49

I think what forced British Cycling's hand on that, was the Emily Bridges situation. On the time trialing forum, I was called a bigot and Nazi for saying that men, irrespective of how they identify should not be allowed to compete in women's sports. That shocked me, but it was mostly left wing/younger riders saying that to me. The older riders and the vast majority of the women agreed with me.
If Bridges had been able to compete against women, there is doubt in my mind, that he would have beaten every women's time trial record from 10 to 100 miles and every track record, as well as the road races.

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Ah, sorry replied before I read your response. Yes, Emily Bridges was definitely the trigger and it was thanks to tireless work behind the scenes by senior women at BC that they finally saw sense.

And I know exactly what you mean about the forums - the cognitive dissonance from a minority of (mainly London-based) cyclists was off the charts. Strangely none of them were turning up to a Wessex League CX race on a freezing Sunday in January to put their money where their mouth was.

oldtiredcyclist · 23/10/2026 13:37

Truinio · 23/10/2026 13:24

Ah, sorry replied before I read your response. Yes, Emily Bridges was definitely the trigger and it was thanks to tireless work behind the scenes by senior women at BC that they finally saw sense.

And I know exactly what you mean about the forums - the cognitive dissonance from a minority of (mainly London-based) cyclists was off the charts. Strangely none of them were turning up to a Wessex League CX race on a freezing Sunday in January to put their money where their mouth was.

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I was permanently banned from the Cyclingnews forum for speaking out against McKinnon and the like in 2019.

Truinio · 23/10/2026 13:42

oldtiredcyclist · 23/10/2026 13:37

I was permanently banned from the Cyclingnews forum for speaking out against McKinnon and the like in 2019.

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Ah yes the delightful ‘Veronica Ivy’. I had forgotten about him! Haven’t they become a golfist since being banned from cycling?

oldtiredcyclist · 23/10/2026 13:47

Truinio · 23/10/2026 13:42

Ah yes the delightful ‘Veronica Ivy’. I had forgotten about him! Haven’t they become a golfist since being banned from cycling?

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They have indeed, playing local tournaments in the women's category and hitting the ball further than the top LGPA pros. In a sane World someone would see something very wrong with that and intervene.