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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Marina Hyde backs J K Rowling for PM

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Secretsquirrelshh · Today 08:25

Marina Hyde in the Guardian today is asked who she would choose for Prime Minister. Her answer (and an excellent idea all-round) is J K Rowling.

A nod, perhaps, to Hyde's opinion on current issues - and as far as I'm aware, she hasn't entered the debate previously.

And this in The Grauniad too!

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ArabellaScott · Today 11:05

Props, Marina.

MyThreeWords · Today 11:09

Nice to see an up-to-date picture of her. She looks a bit too fresh-faced-and-just-out-of-uni in her standard graun pic. I'd enjoy her world-weary columns more if they weren't topped with the appearance of naivete.

Lottapianos · Today 11:19

Read this earlier and gave a little cheer. Definitely would have had her down as gender critical but so good to have it confirmed. She knows perfectly well she will get some shit for it but said it anyway. Good for her 👍

RoyalCorgi · Today 11:34

She's given very tiny hints in the past of being gender-critical/sex-realist. I've always been disappointed that she hasn't been more forthright - after all, she has a prominent platform from which to shout her opinions. Either the Guardian won't let her, or she was afraid of the fallout. Look what happened to Suzanne Moore and Hadley Freeman.

MrPrettyDamnCosmic · Today 11:36

MyThreeWords · Today 11:09

Nice to see an up-to-date picture of her. She looks a bit too fresh-faced-and-just-out-of-uni in her standard graun pic. I'd enjoy her world-weary columns more if they weren't topped with the appearance of naivete.

Her podcasts with Richard Osman are on YouTube if you want to see an up-to-date moving picture of her.

https://www.youtube.com/@TheRestIsEntertainment

Before you continue to YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/@TheRestIsEntertainment

donkey86 · Today 11:42

If anyone is on Reddit it might be worth sticking up for her over there https://www.reddit.com/r/restisentertainment/s/nx8i2w1waW

Though so far, for Reddit, some of the comments are surprisingly ok!

worrisomeasset · Today 12:00

RoyalCorgi · Today 11:34

She's given very tiny hints in the past of being gender-critical/sex-realist. I've always been disappointed that she hasn't been more forthright - after all, she has a prominent platform from which to shout her opinions. Either the Guardian won't let her, or she was afraid of the fallout. Look what happened to Suzanne Moore and Hadley Freeman.

On an episode of The Rest is Entertainment, she mentioned how much she hated the phrase “on the wrong side of history”. At the time, this was a phrase that was used by her Guardian colleague Owen Jones to describe women who were of the GC persuasion. There was a discussion of it here and it was felt that this comment was (at least in part) a dig at OJ. Also, JKR is regularly mentioned on the podcast and I’ve yet to hear either presenter say a negative word about her.

Mouldemort · Today 12:03

You can be assured that she is genuinely anti-trans and was not doing a bit.

INeedAPensieve · Today 12:10

guinnessguzzler · Today 09:22

I love Marina Hyde and knew she was a sensible one. She is probably what I miss most since I stopped reading the Guardian.

Me too. Well, I also miss the late Sarah Hughes and the Game of Thrones community below the line chats we had, and I miss Hadley Freeman as well, but of course that situation (her leaving the guardian due to the women's rights issues and Jewish issues) was what set me on my path of discovery, so I suppose in a way I have to thank Hadley even though I miss her articles! Some I wouldn't always agree with, but she had the same taste in films as me.

I have Marina's book - the collection of her best columns and it's very funny.

INeedAPensieve · Today 12:14

Oh oh... The signal's gone out. The derailing of this thread will commence in 3,2,1...

TheKeatingFive · Today 12:21

Ooh a clear signal from Marina. Late coming, but still welcome

TransParentlyAnnoyed · Today 12:24

Secretsquirrelshh · Today 08:25

Marina Hyde in the Guardian today is asked who she would choose for Prime Minister. Her answer (and an excellent idea all-round) is J K Rowling.

A nod, perhaps, to Hyde's opinion on current issues - and as far as I'm aware, she hasn't entered the debate previously.

And this in The Grauniad too!

And?

She can say what she wants, it's a free country. Doesn't alter how many young trans lives Rowling has helped to end.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Today 12:36

JKR for PM or benign dictator, whichever is easiest. 😂

It's good that the Guardian can print a piece that mentions JKR, shades of the old paper peaking through.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · Today 12:38

TransParentlyAnnoyed · Today 12:24

And?

She can say what she wants, it's a free country. Doesn't alter how many young trans lives Rowling has helped to end.

Fuck’s sake woman, would you ever listen to yourself?

Secretsquirrelshh · Today 12:38

TransParentlyAnnoyed · Today 12:24

And?

She can say what she wants, it's a free country. Doesn't alter how many young trans lives Rowling has helped to end.

Lives do not get "ended" because someone talks reality, biology and safeguarding.

I'm hugely sorry for vulnerable people who cannot see a way out - and their families who are affected by suicide. But it's horrendous to suggest that someone has "helped" that. Or are you suggesting she's incited literal murder? I would be very interested to see the stats.

Thanks for confirming it's a free country though. Always useful to have your input.

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worrisomeasset · Today 12:40

INeedAPensieve · Today 12:14

Oh oh... The signal's gone out. The derailing of this thread will commence in 3,2,1...

There’s been no feeding so far but I fear it’s only a matter of time.

Edited to note that in the time it took to write this post, the feeding commenced.

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