Secondary School Policy Updates post KCSIE 2026 with regard to single sex spaces, trans identifying children etc - have you seen any?

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Half curious, half it supports my case in Brighton - has anyone seen any at all anywhere?

Yes, KCSIE training seemed appropriate.

Thanks for that summary- I was wondering what TPA had said.

Yes. He is becoming more & more unhinged.

BTW He doesn’t even have a “trans” child. When he first contributed to FWR he only claimed two “trans” second cousins.

I'm in actual despair at this thread.

As the mum of a young trans adult who barely survived school, and still has the (literal) scars, I know supportive teachers were the difference between him attending and not. Getting a few grades and not. Surviving, and being in the ground.

There are so many violent, Tate-worshipping, racist cis boys in schools now. All of them with really unhealthy attitudes to girls - but especially trans kids, who they've deduced - from reading terminally-online, obsessed adults - are fair game for sexual assault.

They have often heard it parroted by their mums, too. So when they actually meet an out trans kid - pretty rare - they zero in. They have been told trans people are hypersexual, and evil. Non-people, who adults are fine with attacking as a group.

Without his teachers supporting and protecting him, I know he wouldn't have survived. The bullying was so extreme that it's left him permanently scared of being grabbed and sexually assaulted - again. Girls attacked him, too. On one occasion, a whole class.

Reading the comments here makes me feel sick to my stomach. Trans kids are such a tiny minority (my son was the only out trans boy in a school of hundreds) and so vulnerable. Seeing grown adults discussing them like this - and using words like "safeguarding" to describe stopping teachers protecting them - is traumatising.

Dehumanising and vilifying minorities is deeply unheroic and actually pretty evil. And these are children.

I don't know why so many people want to believe in a vast conspiracy to 'trans' children. It's so ridiculous. Teachers protecting vulnerable kids from parents who might hurt them is literally their job.

Trans children don't feel safe in school, and no wonder. I hear daily from friends despairing about the school refusal, anxiety, self-harm and attempted suicides - because the bullying is usually sexual, and the bullies themselves validated by online transphobia.

I hope none of you ever have to ensure what trans children do, every day, in schools and on the streets. For some of them, it was unsurvivable.

Leave. Them. Alone.

Interesting...

TPA - some of us have a different view to you. This is allowed.

The law states that children in schools must not use toilets of the opposite sex. Therefore, we need to be able to discuss this.

Some of us have seen the harms that gender identity ideology has caused the young people in our care. I have had transgender students permanently injured by their medical 'treatment'. I have seen transgender students become so, so socially avoidant, despite being given every single demand that they made over social transition, that they eventually withdrew from education and only 'lived' online.

Genuinely, I understand that it matters to you. This matters to us too. We, none of us, are left unscathed.

Linked - Flick Prevention of Radicalisation training

Telling boys they cannot use the girls' toilets is "dehumanising and vilifying"?

"Safeguarding" is a traumatic word?

Thank fuck there are some grown-ups back in charge.

'Concerns have been raised that our institutions - schools, colleges, universities, local authorities, and charities are being targetted by extremists who look to try and use them to spread their ideology.'

They are so close to understanding what has happened with gender ideology.

Crying 'evil bigot' at a reasonable position - which is also the law in this country and is evidence based in terms of safeguarding- is extremely mentally unhealthy. Especially for children. Teaching children that if someone disagrees with them (especially in matters where it might be for their safety) they HATE them and they will be harmed is really cruel and can be extremely damaging.

Not one poster on here has anything but concern for gender questioning children and we haven't done any of the vile accusations in TP's posts.

Imagine if people considered it a reasonable position to cast parents saying 'no don't play with matches' or 'no you can't eat oreos exclusively as your entire diet' or 'no you can't actually fly and I'm not going to pretend you can or let you jump off the roof' as abusive.

KCSIE isn't perfect but it's heartening to see in the KCSIE training at least the coercive control and abusive activist language has largely disappeared.

It should be the case now that ALL children in school will be treated equally, safely and within the law.

Bullying can and should be dealt with in the normal way of course, as will support for vulnerable children.

I see that your "trans" child is an adult now. That was sudden but not as sudden as back in January claiming to have two "trans" second cousins but no "trans" kids yourself. Now you claim to have an adult "trans" child & to be an NB female. Is all this pretence really necessary?

Anyone "in despair" about adults talking about new safeguarding guidance on Mumsnet is no ally to children.

The increasingly unhinged accusations that are levelled at posters on here to stop us talking about any aspect of safeguarding is becoming sinister. "Seeing grown adults discussing them like this - and using words like "safeguarding" to describe stopping teachers protecting them - is traumatising".
It's not even possible to address issues in the above quote as it's off the scale / bizarre / emotionally out of control.

This is an exceptionally vulnerable group of children we're concerned about and the one thing the new guidance does is to ensure that these children are safeguarded from extreme transactivists in schools. This and other guidance should restrict the behaviour of external transactivist lobbyists who've done so much harm to the young. Instead schools are advised to direct gender questioning children to qualified and informed professional support for their numerous mental health vulnerabilities.

The only people who have a problem with this are that extreme transactivist lobby.

My three girls all currently go to (or have been at ) an all girls state school . There are at least 5 girls who identify as boys( at this all girls school) that they know of or are in classes with, 2 have wanted to be called boys names since primary school. At least 3 we know are autistic / ND and have additional learning challenges.Those girls are met with understanding and support by my girls ( who are growing up with an understanding of diversity) and the teachers. Have you never considered why a higher percentage of autistic girls identify as boys? Why would trans identities be more common in this group ? Are you aware as to how girls are vulnerable to social pressure, particularly in the age of excessive social media use? As it is I’m very glad these girls have the safety of attending an all girls school where there is no pretence that they aren't female, that they use the same toilets and changing facilities as the other girls- hopefully they may have better outcomes and a chance to work through their challenges rather than being socially transitioned at school form a young age . Being an all girls school, pretty much 1/3 of my older daughters year 7 and 8 classes at one time considered themselves gay or bi but by year 11 most people have started to consider their sexuality differently , I’m glad that children these days have the opportunity to explore their sexuality without judgement or pigeon holing and I hope some day gender questioning children will also have this opportunity without adults jumping at the chance to define them as trans before they have even gone through puberty.

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Nowhere in KCSIE does it say to bully gender-distressed children. It simply says that it is not the school’s remit to socially transition them, and that all children’s wellbeing must be considered.

But we know that our current TRA sealioner turns whatever is being discussed into being how awful we are to their child - regardless of what we are discussing or whether it is at all relevant to their child.

or whether it is at all relevant to their child

Their "trans" child does not exist.

I suspect you’re right.

@TransParentlyAnnoyed “As the mum of a young trans adult”

You failed as a parent by letting your child ‘believe’ they were trans.

Indeed- the reality is that bullies will bully anyone ,be it down to race, sexuality, body type, hair colour ,anything that is perceived as a potential weakness or difference. For any other type of bullying we recognise that support and tackling the bullies through effective policies at school are needed so that children learn early on to accept difference and not persecute their peers.

I am so sorry your DD was bullied at school because she was gender non-conforming. I am also sorry you fell for the idea that if a child with gender dysphoria - often brought on by the shock of puberty - is not allowed to transition they are likely to commit suicide. This is a lie based on a tiny self-selected sample of trans people. I hope that your DD has not gone so far down this route that she is now infertile with a lack of sexual function - which is the end of 'gender affirming care' - but it sounds as though she might have. Please do not berate us for wanting to stop this attack upon children who cannot possibly know the results of puberty blockers, opposite sex hormones and cosmetic surgery on primary and secondary sex characteristics. We are on your side, wanting to help children not harm them.

Peer on peer bullying and violence is covered by kcsie.

Gender questioning children is an entirely different category as the issue is that the vast majority of children desist but we do not know who they will be.

The obvious risk there is that a child “embedded” into the concept that they are “trans” could mean that extreme physical surgery on their body and irreversible changes caused by cross sex hormones, along with increased health risks, occurs which is then later found to be a mistake.

Human brains continue to develop to 25, more recent data indicates even to 30. Thus a child may find they’re actually gay. This is why some people are adults when they work out their true sexuality.

But working out your sexuality doesn’t mean irreversible surgery. Unless you were confused by homophobia and thought you were trans, when actually you weee re gay.

Trans children do no long exist in uk medical literature and processes for this precise reason