New York Times 'What the dems need to do to win'

[WrongKindOfFeminist]

A view from the US.

https://archive.ph/qkvcs

'...these three issues that serve to reinforce the perception that Democrats are willing to sacrifice the interests of the working and middle classes in favor of special interest constituencies.
I am more than a little queasy making these suggestions, but I think the Democratic Party needs to perform a kind of brutal surgery on itself.
The hard-edge character and language of what I am proposing is specifically designed to function as a public renunciation of the Democratic Party’s liabilities, its ties to special interest groups and its readiness to succumb to progressive orthodoxy.

The proposals amount, then, to an ideological exorcism.
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Transgender and gender dysphoria:
There are two sexes: men and women.
A man can claim an identify as a woman, and the same in reverse for a woman. They have every right to do so. Their claim should be respected and they should be protected from any form of discrimination for their choice.
Their claim does not, however, alter their biological sex.
Consequently, it is legitimate in areas such as sports where a transgender person would have a competitive advantage over non-trans people to bar such participation. Similarly, a claim to a sexual identity does not give a trans woman the right to incarceration in a woman’s prison.
Finally, the debate over gender affirming surgery and hormone treatments is fraught with contradictory assertions. For now, because there are credible scientific claims of irreversible harms, such treatments for those under 18 should be barred pending further study.
There are some other planks I would add, including a strong commitment to free speech and an adamant rejection of all forms of cancel culture; an endorsement of equality of opportunity based on merit; the repudiation of socialism in favor of a free and open market accompanied by government regulation to prevent exploitation, monopolization and unfair trade practices.

But for now let’s stick with immigration, crime and transgender rights.
In exploring these issues with Democratic strategists, I was surprised to find significant support — with differences over language — from a variety of sources, albeit accompanied by a harsh rejection from a communications specialist for a firm headed by a major Democratic campaign strategist.'

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/qkvcs/www.nytimes.com/by/thomas-b-edsall" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Thomas B. Edsall

It's interesting to read the democrat strategists suggested ways to 'tone down ' this proposal.

Oh, for sure.

This man still isn't grasping the WHY these things are problems. He's just apparently promoting a populist approach for the sake of winning votes.

There are two sexes: men and women

Already that's anti-trans. Male and female are the sexes; men and women are gender identities that are nothing to do with biological sex.

And they've erased NBs.

This has been thought about? As in they needed to think about this?

The Dems are so far up themselves they are totally out of touch with the majority of Americans.

It's thoroughly depressing.

Is this satire?

Welcome to my world.

The Dems will not have a chance unless and until they move away from policies and views that just invite derisory/critical reaction from Republicans.

That's more or less all there is to it IMV.

Oh, I assumed it was. Maybe not?! 😂

No, it's the genderists' view (as in, that is why they would not think anything proposed was reasonable, because it doesn't accept those genderist concepts). You are very privileged if you have not come across it yet!

We’re still months away from the mid terms and the Dems have already screwed up with the whole Graham Platner debacle. This should be an open goal for them, but I fear they’re incapable of doing anything sensible or learning any lessons. A very sorry state of affairs.

Excellent piece. I've been saying this for a few years now.

But I'm beginning to suspect that left of centre parties don't care if they're in power or not. As long as they stay in office and collect a fat paycheck.

The luxury of being in opposition is that you can sit in your ivory tower and spew your ideological bullshit to your hearts content, to the delight of your equally delusional supporters.

And then there's the whinging to the press about 'victimhood' on daily basis. While in actuality you're doing nothing to improve the lives of ordinary people in your district.

Unless the political left wises up, look forward to more Republican wins in the future

As I’ve said and which most of the MN Labour fans refuse to accept, it isn’t just the issue that counts with “trans rights”, they’re right to think most people don’t think much about it either way. It’s the fact that spouting the complete absurdities that they have to about it makes supposed serious politicians look duplicitous, absurd, untrustworthy and insane. And unelectable.

It’s the fact that spouting the complete absurdities that they have to about it makes supposed serious politicians look duplicitous, absurd, untrustworthy and insane. And unelectable.

I don't disagree with what you say, and yet... we have Trump 😑You don't have to be spouting lies about people being able to change sex to look absurd, insane, or any of the others things. And make everyone around you, who has to agree with you or you'll ruin them, look exactly as absurd as you are. Or Biden who was clearly lying about his health from day one, and expecting everyone just to ignore it.

And yet...both still somehow electable.

Unless the political left wises up, look forward to more Republican wins in the future

At this point, I'm looking no further than a fair, properly-run election in 2028, with a fairly-elected President at the end of it, Republican or Democrat, who will uphold the Constitution. I'm not entirely convinced that this will happen. We're not there yet.

Unless the political left wises up, look forward to more Republican wins in the future

Apparently it's not the left who's responsible, this has nothing to do with the left, the Gender Idiots are all far right, capitalist's. I just read some comments on another thread that said so.

I just read some comments on another thread that said so.

😂 Well then it must be true.

People talk all sorts of 💩

I think people see Trump very differently from the Democrats. It's hard to put a finger on, but they see him as unreliable. or kind of like a used car salesman.

Whereas they see some of these Democrats as self-deluded ideologues. People who will fuck you over not because it's convenient, or even fun, but because it is the Right Thing to do. And they will expect you to enjoy it as well.

I don’t think Trump is electable but America is a very different place to the UK. And I think it makes my point more that the Dems beclowned themselves so much that it contributed to him getting in again.

Yes, I agree.

@TempestTost

You have a point there. Just my observation, and I'm generalizing, but the GOP always comes from a point of view of "we are always right " and supreme confidence in their innate "rightness." And, for the most part, most Republicans believe in this absolutely. Being conservative in the US is often easier to be, because you don't have to make huge changes to society that a lot of people won't like, and you get to keep all your stuff. Most people are "conservative" until they reach a point in their lives where they can afford to not be conservative.

Whereas, the Democrats have to ask the voter for things, coming at it from an "insecure" angle, without the innate confidence. And they are allowed to argue amongst themselves, which creates a weak united front. Democrats have rarely been on the side of "right" if you look at it from an individual's point of view. Is it "right" to take my money in taxes because it will make someone else's life easier? Is it "right" to champion minority interests over the majority? Etc.

I wonder if it comes from the fact that, for the first time since perhaps The New Deal, the Democrats have found something they can be "right" about. It creates a false, collective confidence that has taken them, briefly, into the White House (although I'm convinced this really happened because it was a backlash against Trump).

It has also created this collective sense of "rightness" that the Democrats haven't had in abundance in nearly 100 years, and those Democrats who need it most in order to stay in power and to feel "right " about themselves as people, won't let go of it easily. Hence the ideologues.

Just my two cents.

Given what I've been learning about the Southern Democratics they seem like a party that swings from one extreme to another.