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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Secret non-monogamy- don't judge

21 replies

Imnobody4 · 12/07/2026 12:19

I'm starting to think the West is in self destruct mode. It's like everyone is in a competition where the stupidest wins.

From James Esses:

The British Association of Psychotherapy & Counselling has just released new ‘Gender, Sexuality and Relationship Diversity Guidance’.

It categorises infidelity as a brand new sexuality: ‘secret non-monogamy’.

Therapists must affirm this sexuality to prove ‘cultural competency’.

https://x.com/i/status/2076261276678820324

James Esses (@JamesEsses) on X

The British Association of Psychotherapy & Counselling has just released new ‘Gender, Sexuality and Relationship Diversity Guidance’. It categorises infidelity as a brand new sexuality: ‘secret non-monogamy’. Therapists must affirm this sexuality...

https://x.com/i/status/2076261276678820324

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BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 12/07/2026 12:35

😂A new label for something men want to do and already do!
(yes, of course women do it, too)

Why don't we relabel everything we want to do that's bad for other people, so we can do it without feeling guilty? (Isn't that what a lot of men people already do?)

SunnySunnyDayz · 12/07/2026 12:38

I don't see how this can align with all the focus on clear consent these days.

Do what you like with a consenting partner, but how can they consent to secret cheating?

Luckydog7 · 12/07/2026 12:39

Ah yes.

Non-consentual property entry.

'Secret' long term borrowing and selling of precious objects.

Un-agreed ending of someone else's life.

Sounds so much better....

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 12/07/2026 12:43

I remember reading years ago about some group wanting to de-stigmatise people who steal from shops by officially calling them 'non-traditional shoppers'.

How about, if you don't want people to call a spade a spade, don't behave like a spade?

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 12/07/2026 12:48

I suppose, if the 'MAPs' are desperately trying to 'legitimise' their perversion as 'normal' by deliberately using different and ambiguous phraseology, we shouldn't be remotely surprised that people who are 'only' taking about relationships between adults would feel aggrieved if anybody should criticise them for their chosen actions.

MarieDeGournay · 12/07/2026 12:57

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 12/07/2026 12:35

😂A new label for something men want to do and already do!
(yes, of course women do it, too)

Why don't we relabel everything we want to do that's bad for other people, so we can do it without feeling guilty? (Isn't that what a lot of men people already do?)

There was a wonderfully funny little Irish film in the 80s, called 'Eat the Peach'.
In it, the cross-border smugglers insisted on being called 'International Commodity Re-Locators' instead of smugglers.

And I've heard shoplifting referred to as 'Five-finger discount'.

So I suppose 'secret-non-monogamy' fits right in there..

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 12/07/2026 13:07

Without reading it, I'm guessing that Meg-John Barker, girlfriend of Edward Lord of Hampstead Ponds infamy, co-wrote this?

From the pictured words alone, it's just another way for men to gaslight women into tolerating male behaviour that women rightly find unacceptable.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 12/07/2026 13:12

Luckydog7 · 12/07/2026 12:39

Ah yes.

Non-consentual property entry.

'Secret' long term borrowing and selling of precious objects.

Un-agreed ending of someone else's life.

Sounds so much better....

"Direct action" instead of "criminal damage".

terryleather · 12/07/2026 13:44

Is this yet more tiresome "queering", this time of monogamy?

I wonder if they'll ever run out of things to "queer"... but then they'd have to find something actually useful to do with their time...

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 12/07/2026 14:07

I swear the shrinks are the biggest nutters of them all. Freud would be so proud.

SerendipityJane · 12/07/2026 16:08

Imnobody4 · 12/07/2026 12:19

I'm starting to think the West is in self destruct mode. It's like everyone is in a competition where the stupidest wins.

From James Esses:

The British Association of Psychotherapy & Counselling has just released new ‘Gender, Sexuality and Relationship Diversity Guidance’.

It categorises infidelity as a brand new sexuality: ‘secret non-monogamy’.

Therapists must affirm this sexuality to prove ‘cultural competency’.

https://x.com/i/status/2076261276678820324

Presumably tax-dodging is secret wealth creation ?

JellySaurus · 12/07/2026 16:25

Ah, the cult of Meee. True happiness, true honesty, true integrity are to be found by me being true to myself. So affirm meee. Be culturally sensitive to meee. And everyone else can go to hell.

borntobequiet · 12/07/2026 17:44

“Colloquially known as cheating” ha ha ha. Because surely, this must be a joke.

WrongKindOfFeminist · 13/07/2026 15:44

SunnySunnyDayz · 12/07/2026 12:38

I don't see how this can align with all the focus on clear consent these days.

Do what you like with a consenting partner, but how can they consent to secret cheating?

Not to even mention things like STDs.

WrongKindOfFeminist · 13/07/2026 15:45

Does anyone know if this is authored by Meg John Barker? The 2023 version was but I assume this is a different author.

icingonmycupcake · 13/07/2026 15:59

4.5 Secret Non-Monogamy Cheating

I mean ffs. 🤨

TempestTost · Yesterday 00:53

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 12/07/2026 14:07

I swear the shrinks are the biggest nutters of them all. Freud would be so proud.

Honesty, I find myself in the position of having very little time or trust for that whole profession. |s in, I would struggle to ever use their services under any circumstances.

TempestTost · Yesterday 00:57

My friend's ex took this approach to the idea of "sexuality" - told her one day that he could no longer live denying his sexuality which was poly-sexual, and he was happy to stay married but would have to have other partners.

There seems to be a certain group for whom the idea of sexuality now means, what you feel inclined to do.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · Yesterday 01:11

TempestTost · Yesterday 00:57

My friend's ex took this approach to the idea of "sexuality" - told her one day that he could no longer live denying his sexuality which was poly-sexual, and he was happy to stay married but would have to have other partners.

There seems to be a certain group for whom the idea of sexuality now means, what you feel inclined to do.

Guessing, "reader, she divorced him"?

Ponderingwindow · Yesterday 01:16

I know it’s not practical, but I would prefer to go in the other direction and make exposing your supposedly monogamous partner to disease risk without their consent a crime.

infidelity doesn’t just hurt people’s feelings.

pinkdelight · Yesterday 01:43

It’s not very secret if one identifies as this. Doesn’t even pass the first base of a logic test.

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