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A growing threat: the anti-rights movement in the UK says Amnesty who claim over 50% are Gender Critical groups

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IwantToRetire · 09/07/2026 17:01

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Anti-rights actors seek a society in which women and men have fixed and distinct roles, based on what they view as ‘natural’ and ‘traditional’. These actors perceive the idea that gender is socially constructed as a threat because it suggests that gender roles can, and do, change across societies and over time. In fact, progress in the rights of women and LGBT+ people has been underpinned by changing understandings of gender and social roles.

Anti-rights actors refer to this perceived threat as ‘gender ideology’, portraying it as an attack on national traditions, family structures, marriage and religious freedom. These narratives often seek to generate fear and uncertainty and rely on misinformation or exaggerated claims.

The term ‘gender ideology’ emerged in the context of debates within international institutions, particularly the United Nations, about gender equality and sexual and reproductive rights.

In 1964, the Holy See became a Permanent Observer at the UN General Assembly, the only religious body with this status. As a permanent observer the Holy See can participate in processes at the General Assembly as well as other UN bodies. It cannot vote but it has the possibility to co-sponsor resolutions if a member state requests a vote. Although it cannot vote, the Holy See can participate in UN discussions and processes and has played an influential role in debates on women's rights and LGBT+ rights.

The term ‘gender ideology’ gained prominence in response to progress on gender equality and Cairo in 1994. These conference were a landmark moment for the global women's rights movement. The Beijing Declaration and Platform for Action is widely regarded as a key international framework for advancing women's rights and gender equality, and states continue to report on its implementation through the Commission on the Status of Women.

While opposition to sexual and reproductive rights predates the Beijing conference, the term ‘gender ideology’ became a particularly important response to the advances achieved there. The phrase was coined to explain the growing influence of gender equality agendas and to mobilise opposition to them.

Although the term originated in debates at the international level, it has since become a broad political narrative used by a wide range of anti-rights actors. Today, it is often used to connect campaigns against gender equality, sexual and reproductive rights, and LGBT+ rights across different countries and contexts.

From intro to report at
https://media.amnesty.org.uk/documents/Report_-_A_growing_threat__the_anti-rights_movement_in_the_UK_July_2026.pdf

See images of the list of 51 groups Amnesty is claiming are right wing.

A growing threat: the anti-rights movement in the UK says Amnesty who claim over 50% are Gender Critical groups
A growing threat: the anti-rights movement in the UK says Amnesty who claim over 50% are Gender Critical groups
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nicepotoftea · 13/07/2026 20:58

SwirlyGates · 13/07/2026 20:46

Don't forget that Amnesty made a submission to the FWS Supreme Court case to the effect that trans people (with a GRC) should be treated as their "acquired gender" in all situations.

Can't think of anything more right wing than treating somebody as a gender.

DieWaarheid · 13/07/2026 21:00

nicepotoftea · 13/07/2026 20:58

Can't think of anything more right wing than treating somebody as a gender.

You really don't understand what "right wing" means, do you?

MNLurker1345 · 13/07/2026 21:03

nicepotoftea · 13/07/2026 20:57

You still haven't explained how women defending their rights is 'right wing'.

Well put! @DieWaarheid‘s post is emotional and forceful, but lacks any substantive argument.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 13/07/2026 21:05

DieWaarheid · 13/07/2026 21:00

You really don't understand what "right wing" means, do you?

Go on, enlighten us, miserable offenders. (Sorry, got mixed up with the Book of Common Prayer for a moment.)

LtRipley · 13/07/2026 21:05

Seethlaw · 13/07/2026 20:57

The GC Cult, and all the hideous, bigoted, ignorant rhetoric they espouse, is absolutely a blight on our otherwise civilised society.

LOL!

... Wait, you're serious??

They are so serious they've spittled all over their keyboard.

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 13/07/2026 21:07

SwirlyGates · 13/07/2026 20:54

Good grief @DieWaarheid, I suggest you take a deep breath and put some calming music on.

He's over on the Trans Monster thread, too. It's hilarious (the cartoon). Especially all the people on Happy Smokes, or something 😆

DieWaarheid · 13/07/2026 21:13

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 13/07/2026 21:07

He's over on the Trans Monster thread, too. It's hilarious (the cartoon). Especially all the people on Happy Smokes, or something 😆

Indeed. Of course, in your little world, any material - cartoon or otherwise - that is opposed to bigots and bigotry is "hilarious" isn't it?

nicepotoftea · 13/07/2026 21:21

DieWaarheid · 13/07/2026 21:00

You really don't understand what "right wing" means, do you?

Most of the time I understand it as referring to economic policy, but I also understand it as being more culturally conservative and 'treating somebody as a gender' = expecting women and men to conform to gendered expectations.

Generally, I think you should just treat people as human beings. There are situations where women and men require different resources for practical reasons, but most of the time just treat people as people. Or do you disagree?

How would you treat somebody as a gender?

Arran2024 · 13/07/2026 21:24

DieWaarheid · 13/07/2026 21:00

You really don't understand what "right wing" means, do you?

I suspect you don't either

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 13/07/2026 21:38

DieWaarheid · 13/07/2026 20:50

Don't be so absurd.

Labour Women's Declaration is no more right-wing than women not wanting to be seen as "sex objects".

What is right-wing, however - and ties in very neatly with the OP's referenced report - are attitudes the like of which pervade the cesspit that is this area of MN.
The GC Cult, and all the hideous, bigoted, ignorant rhetoric they espouse, is absolutely a blight on our otherwise civilised society.

You’ve missed out legally and factually accurate from your diatribe.

I have decided that your post identifies as saying the following because anything else is fiction.

“The GC Cult and all the legally and scientifically accurate rhetoric they espouse is absolutely a boon to our civilised society.”

Otherwise you would be saying that understanding and applying the law and science is both right wing and bigoted - which would be very strange.

DieWaarheid · 13/07/2026 21:39

nicepotoftea · 13/07/2026 21:21

Most of the time I understand it as referring to economic policy, but I also understand it as being more culturally conservative and 'treating somebody as a gender' = expecting women and men to conform to gendered expectations.

Generally, I think you should just treat people as human beings. There are situations where women and men require different resources for practical reasons, but most of the time just treat people as people. Or do you disagree?

How would you treat somebody as a gender?

Congratulations on being one of the few people on MN with rationality and intelligence.

Which raises the inevitable question; what are you doing here? Unless it is something of an anthropological study. Rather like being a Guardian reader but still reading the comments section of the Daily Mail...

Theeyeballsinthesky · 13/07/2026 21:40

ah I see Rik from the Young ones has entered the chat

A growing threat: the anti-rights movement in the UK says Amnesty who claim over 50% are Gender Critical groups
nicepotoftea · 13/07/2026 21:41

https://x.com/mbmpolicy/status/2076745534723776705

Amnesty have sent a bland reply to Murray Blackburn Mackenzie apologising for the 'language' (which bit?).

They finish by saying Human rights protections are strongest when they apply equally to everyone, which is oddly similar to 'All Lives Matter' and right wing complaints that white men are the most marginalised. Very Trumpy.

MurrayBlackburnMackenzie (@mbmpolicy) on X

We have not yet received a response to our letter to the Chairs, but have been sent this email from the Chief Executive this evening.

https://x.com/mbmpolicy/status/2076745534723776705

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/07/2026 21:43

SwirlyGates · 13/07/2026 20:46

Don't forget that Amnesty made a submission to the FWS Supreme Court case to the effect that trans people (with a GRC) should be treated as their "acquired gender" in all situations.

Which was rejected by the court, who I think commented that they were completely unpersuaded by Amnesty’s argument (made by a trans person, so it’s a bit weird to say no trans people were able to intervene)

LtRipley · 13/07/2026 21:43

DieWaarheid · 13/07/2026 21:39

Congratulations on being one of the few people on MN with rationality and intelligence.

Which raises the inevitable question; what are you doing here? Unless it is something of an anthropological study. Rather like being a Guardian reader but still reading the comments section of the Daily Mail...

You're funty

DieWaarheid · 13/07/2026 21:45

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 13/07/2026 21:38

You’ve missed out legally and factually accurate from your diatribe.

I have decided that your post identifies as saying the following because anything else is fiction.

“The GC Cult and all the legally and scientifically accurate rhetoric they espouse is absolutely a boon to our civilised society.”

Otherwise you would be saying that understanding and applying the law and science is both right wing and bigoted - which would be very strange.

"You’ve missed out legally and factually accurate from your diatribe."

No. What I originally said was what I meant.
It's only in your fevered imagination that "legally" and "factually" are the same thing.

nicepotoftea · 13/07/2026 21:47

DieWaarheid · 13/07/2026 21:39

Congratulations on being one of the few people on MN with rationality and intelligence.

Which raises the inevitable question; what are you doing here? Unless it is something of an anthropological study. Rather like being a Guardian reader but still reading the comments section of the Daily Mail...

Oh I have been here for a long time under one user name or another. It was having children that really made me realise you can't escape the need for sex based rights (regardless of whether you identify with masculinity or femininity or neither).

I don't think I have said anything that anyone else on this board would disagree with though.

LtRipley · 13/07/2026 21:47

... Anyways. I share Transwidows' Voices frustration that JKR gets all the publicity (she should get some: attacking a woman-only rape support centre is heinous). I think (bear with) that always referring to JKR is a bit like the media always only referring to toilets. The reaction from the disinterested General Public is "Oh that/her again, why don't they just shut up about her/them".

nicepotoftea · 13/07/2026 21:49

LtRipley · 13/07/2026 21:47

... Anyways. I share Transwidows' Voices frustration that JKR gets all the publicity (she should get some: attacking a woman-only rape support centre is heinous). I think (bear with) that always referring to JKR is a bit like the media always only referring to toilets. The reaction from the disinterested General Public is "Oh that/her again, why don't they just shut up about her/them".

Edited

I think it's also a bit like putting the Princess of Wales on the front of the newspaper instead of the winner of Wimbledon. They just know her name gets clicks.

LtRipley · 13/07/2026 21:50

Yes that too.
(watch out, he's on a charm offensive BTW)

nicepotoftea · 13/07/2026 21:51

LtRipley · 13/07/2026 21:50

Yes that too.
(watch out, he's on a charm offensive BTW)

Edited

Still hasn't actually addressed the question.

LtRipley · 13/07/2026 21:52

He's hoping you'll forget and start sharing makeup tips in gratitude at being referred to as rational and (sexy time!) intelligent

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 13/07/2026 21:53

DieWaarheid · 13/07/2026 21:13

Indeed. Of course, in your little world, any material - cartoon or otherwise - that is opposed to bigots and bigotry is "hilarious" isn't it?

Oh so serious 🙁It's panel five and all the happy clappy people! Surely you can see that?

ps . You still haven't answered my question on the other thread... thanks?

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 13/07/2026 21:55

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 13/07/2026 21:38

You’ve missed out legally and factually accurate from your diatribe.

I have decided that your post identifies as saying the following because anything else is fiction.

“The GC Cult and all the legally and scientifically accurate rhetoric they espouse is absolutely a boon to our civilised society.”

Otherwise you would be saying that understanding and applying the law and science is both right wing and bigoted - which would be very strange.

I have decided that your post identifies as saying the following

I'm stealing that, thanks!