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Are lunchtime unisex toilets in a primary school legally compliant?

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TheFeministGovernor · 30/06/2026 15:03

The primary school I govern at was built with unisex toilets. Over time, some toilets have been changed to be boys / girls only, although they do open into a communal sinks area. There is at least a side for boys and a side for girls in most toilet blocks.

As far as I understand it, this complies with legislation, as whilst unisex facilities exist somewhere in the school, the option to use single-sex facilities is also available for all children over the age of 8.

However, at lunchtime, children have access to a restricted number of toilets - for absolutely common sense reasons (namely: not allowing children to maurad throughout the entire school without supervision). However, at lunchtime this means there is no access to single-sex provision.

Am I right in thinking this is not legal, or are we still at the stage where we are waiting for absolute clarity from the Department of Education? I don't want to quote information to the headteacher that's not absolutely correct, as he has previously been dismissive of these concerns.

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EmailEve · Yesterday 17:50

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 16:20

£1,600 inc VAT for all 4, just looked. Also looked for non paywalled copies.... could not find one

I'd chip in top

Keeptoiletssafe · Yesterday 17:51

PoppySeedBagelRedux · Yesterday 16:52

Does anyone know if there are rules relating to toilets for children in general? I was at RHS Wisley a couple of weeks ago for a course for adults that was held in a block that is designed for educating children. There were two lots of child-sized toilets, clearly originally built as one boys, one girls, which are now both mixed sex. Is this legal?

There was only one adult sized toilet, a disabled one, and we attendees were directed there rather than to the children‘s toilets.

Depending on how they operate, that would possibly come under Approved Document T (2024). Look at p.4 for exemptions.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6901feb971b575684c3cf7c4/ADT_2024_rev16Jun25.pdf

It’s obvious that they should change it back to girls and boys. If they refurbish they will have to consider the above document which clearly states unisex can be considered after single sex. Mixed sex cubicles is not an option.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6901feb971b575684c3cf7c4/ADT_2024_rev16Jun25.pdf

EmailEve · Yesterday 17:52

KittyCorncrake · Yesterday 17:34

Do we base onerous regulations around the need to avoid ‘sniggering’ rather than education????? Unreal.

Could you perhaps read the thread to gain insight into the discussion?

Your comment strikes me as being somewhat purile.

Lovelyview · Yesterday 18:01

KittyCorncrake · Yesterday 17:13

Then the regulations are not fit for purpose.
Educate the boys about menstruation -a very normal process for their family members and future partners!
This is not biblical times when women were ‘unclean’ during menstruation.
Utterly ridiculous to base regulations acting some primitive superstition.

Bog off perv.

TheFeministGovernor · Yesterday 18:20

KittyCorncrake · Yesterday 17:13

Then the regulations are not fit for purpose.
Educate the boys about menstruation -a very normal process for their family members and future partners!
This is not biblical times when women were ‘unclean’ during menstruation.
Utterly ridiculous to base regulations acting some primitive superstition.

We almost agree. Periods are not shameful and absolutely boys need to be educated in this.

However, if you are a 9 year old girl and you’ve started your periods and are already feeling alone (none of your friends have started yet), do you really feel ok about being used as a prop to educate the horrid Y6 boy who tells all his friends?

Children are also taught not to be racist or homophobic but every term governors get behaviour reports showing exactly these incidents.

Children aren’t perfect. Adults need to afford them dignity and privacy, not use them as a teaching case.

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Pinkfluffypencilcase · Yesterday 18:27

Keeptoiletssafe · Yesterday 17:19

In terms of toilets, here’s a further education link to a 2021 version see p.54 and p.17. You will see it mentions privacy because of mobile phone cameras but not safety. This is typically men videoing women. 5mm was the floor to door gap that is generally quoted to prevent this behaviour. The disadvantages in not having door gaps is what no one has risked accessed (except me). The irony is that misuse occurs when you know you can get away with it. It is even saying single sex cubicles should be floor to ceiling and at that time it wasn’t clear what single sex toilets meant.
https://dera.ioe.ac.uk/id/eprint/38829/2/FE-OS_Generic_Design_Brief-A-C01.pdf

https://dera.ioe.ac.uk/id/eprint/38829/3/FE-OS_Annex_2A_SanitarywareAndFacilities-A-C01.pdf

There are many incidences of male staff being struck off for setting up hidden cameras in school toilets (including headteachers, teachers, caretakers). A design that favours this occurrence is a mixed sex toilet and privacy. There are no incidences of female staff being struck off for toilet misuse that I can find. 100% of voyeur, for any voyeurism offence, in prison (as of May 2025) are male.

The current design ‘requirements’ for schools and further education is here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/design-standards-employers-requirements

Good luck ploughing through it all!

Education Estates is huge business and there’s a big conference each year. I am not employed in education anymore and have never been to it. I expect there would be a lot on toilets next time.

This is amazing thank you. I’ll have read through and see what I can raise.

damemaggiescurledupperlip · Yesterday 18:31

The power of Mumsnet.

Keeptoiletssafe · Yesterday 18:57

From the new links for schools - these are relevant bits I found for a different poster:
5.1.24 Sanitary product dispensing machines
• Extent: Minimum one machine per female toilet suite, or as specified in the Project Brief, for use from and including KS2 onwards (may be supplied by a service provider to School/College)
• Location: In common areas used only by females, not in an individual cubicle/room and not visible from circulation areas
• Mounting height (to underside): 850-1000mm
5.1.25 Sanitary product disposal bins
• Extent: One for every female toilet cubicle or universal toilet room, or as specified in the Project Brief, for use from and including KS2 onwards (may be supplied by a service provider to School/College)
• Location: On the floor adjacent to the toilet pan
3.22 Personal care (PCS)
Table of toilets ratios for pupils and students
Note: In male toilets, for Post 16 only (including FE/colleges),
urinals can be provided with the following ratio: 1.5 urinals for every WC pan replaced. Where selected, at least 40% of facilities shall be provided as WC pans.
In schools, in separate toilets for boys and girls, at least one toilet is provided in accommodation for use by ambulant disabled pupils.
In schools, in separate toilets for boys and girls, where there are four or more toilets, one of these is an enlarged toilet for use by pupils who need extra space, in addition to any other provision.
*On each floor of any school block there shall be a standalone toilet facility provided in a room that can be secured from the inside and is intended for use by one pupil at a time.
Where there are four or more toilet rooms in a cluster, one of these is to be enlarged for use by pupils who need extra space. In each group of toilets for Reception and Nursery pupils there shall be one wider cubicle to allow staff to give assistance.
my note: this used to be called gender neutral but is not anymore.
Glossary
Cubicle - A ventilated compartment, not self-contained, usually formed by the assembly of partition panels and located within a room.
Suite(s) - Collection(s) of Spaces and Clusters that need proximity or close relationship to function, for example, administration spaces, dining and kitchens, Primary classrooms and activity rooms.
This is taken from:
Pattern Book: 3.7 Primary classrooms; 3.22 Personal care
Technical Manual: 2.7 Internal walls and partitions; 2.8 Internal doors and glazed screens; 5.1 Sanitaryware and ancillaries

Edit: I don’t know what this means for schools built or toilets refurbished before this year. This is also just for England.

TheInvisibleWorm · Today 08:27

You are marvellous, @Keeptoiletssafe , thanks for laying all this out. Every time I read one of your posts I get educated.

InconvenientlyMaterial · Today 09:17

KittyCorncrake · Yesterday 17:13

Then the regulations are not fit for purpose.
Educate the boys about menstruation -a very normal process for their family members and future partners!
This is not biblical times when women were ‘unclean’ during menstruation.
Utterly ridiculous to base regulations acting some primitive superstition.

Aren't we amazing in the global west? Our boys and men don't harass and assault girls and women any more.

Single sex provisions are only important for those in developing countries.

RosesandFuschias · Today 09:45

Pinkfluffypencilcase · Yesterday 14:17

Thanks I will do that. Preliminary google though says as long as floor to ceiling enclosed / lockable from inside / internal washbasin is complaint in a post 16 setting.

I taught at a sixth form college where students and staff shared some of these, in some areas of the estate.

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