EHRC Guidelines are an attempt to erase trans and intersex people from public life, this document is genocidal in nature

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Sorry if this has been posted, but I've just had a nearly total meltdown. Not just the heat but my brain having to find that men would presume to say challenging trans identity is a form of genocide

... The Lemkin Institute cannot read the new EHRC guidance as anything other than an attempt to make life harder for the trans and intersex communities in the UK and to erase them from public life as much as possible. There are also several instances where the Code of Practice tends towards the forced outing of trans people who dare to exist in public spaces, which is incredibly harmful and puts trans and intersex people at risk of violent assault.

The guidance is based on the bizarre notion that services cease to be single-sex if trans people are allowed to use them. It goes on to state that this would “very likely to amount to unlawful sex discrimination against the people of the opposite sex who are not allowed to use it.” This means that if a business, for example, allows both trans and cis women to use the women’s toilet, but does not allow cis men to use that same toilet, cis men could claim discrimination on the basis of sex, even though a men’s toilet exists. It is unclear what disadvantage or unfavourable treatment cis men in this scenario would be facing, which are required components of discrimination according to the Code of Practice itself. Given that women’s toilets tend to be busier and have longer lines, we believe that being able to use the male toilet could actually be described as an advantage. ...

https://www.lemkininstitute.com/statements-new-page/statement-on-the-anti-trans-and-anti-intersex-ehrc-code-of-practice-in-the-united-kingdom

I read this, shared it to people, and I to lead with the line "genocidal in nature"

What absolute fucking guff.

What a staggering insult to those people have been true victims of actual genocide.

They know no fucking depth to their insanity.

The guidance is based on the bizarre notion that services cease to be single-sex if trans people are allowed to use them

Fuck my life. I mean really. These people are walking the streets, driving cars and voting. Its staggering.

“The Lemkin Institute” are two people who astroturf as if they are something important, AFAICR. They’re ridiculous. I think Lemkin’s family have complained about their use of his name.

Stupid, insane, deeply offensive, utterly unaware of their privilege. Do they really think this ridiculous hyperbole helps their case?

There are lots of posts about them.

The guidance is based on the bizarre notion that services cease to be single-sex if trans people are allowed to use them

No. The guidance is based on the fact that services cease to be single-sex if people of the opposite sex are allowed to use them.

Are the people who wrote this stupid or insane?

Men really don’t like it when women say “no”, do they?

The "Lemkin Institute" has no budget and no employees. It's a nothing-burger.

I'd rather pay attention to the Mickey Mouse (and Donald) Institute. At least that would have cool animation.

...and no right to use Raphael Lemkin's name, as they will discover when his family succeed in their legal action against this so-called institute.

I’ll be honest, I had the wool pulled over my eyes on these people. Because of the grand name, “The Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention”, and the way people cite it online, I assumed it was some, well-funded organisation with authority.

It isn’t, as people have said.

By its own description, it’s an all-volunteer organisation with about 50 volunteers at any given time, managed by a small group of long-term volunteers. It says it started as a “zero budget organisation” and has even sold merchandise to help keep itself afloat.

they are not researching Rwanda. They are researching blokes in the ladies. Weird.

I'm not saying the "Institute" is credible, but it is being taken up by TRAs here in the UK, who like to slip it in their endless articles about the cruelty of the EHRC.

And sadly most people wont take the time to research it.

And so it will have a ripple effect.

Yes, it’s been taken up by TRAs in the UK for a long time. There isn’t much that can be done other than educate people where possible.

The Lemkin Institute identifies as something serious and intellectual. It is neither.

I get what you are saying OP, but it's just another whack-a-mole women have to deal with. Fortunately more people have their listening ears on compared to last year and will understand that this "genocidal" crap isn't worth anything anymore.

Doesn’t one of the women who started this (Elisa von ???) have a trans child?

I think if you monitored the media they will be quoted far more often than say Sex Matters or FWS.

It isn't logical not to realise that.

Its no accident that 99.9% of institutions, parliaments and entertainment industry are saying they aren't going to implement the guidelines.

Absolutely ludicrously testerical

I don’t agree. Sex Matters and FWS are usually involved in cases so get quoted a lot. There are massive problems with people digging their heels in like Japanese soldiers still fighting WWII after it ended, but “The Lemkin Institute” are not the reason for that. They’re shitty, but they’re not the cause. Honestly, TRAs have been inappropriately claiming “genocide” because people challenged their entitlement for a decade. It’s not a new thing.

Another document that got called “genocidal” was the International Declaration on Women’s Sex Based Rights, because it says:

c) States should “condemn discrimination against women in all its forms, agree to pursue by all appropriate means and without delay a policy of eliminating discrimination against women’’. (CEDAW, Article 2).
This should include the elimination of that act and practice of discrimination against women which comprises the inclusion of men who claim to have a female ‘gender identity’ in the category of women. Such inclusion erodes women’s rights to safety, dignity and equality.

Which TRAs have creatively interpreted in exactly the way you might imagine.

Given that women’s toilets tend to be busier and have longer lines, we believe that being able to use the male toilet could actually be described as an advantage. ...

Even with this part, it's so clearly focused solely on what they want, with not the slightest thought given to the women who will have to queue for even longer still if men are using their toilets as well.

There are massive problems with people digging their heels in like Japanese soldiers still fighting WWII after it ended,
I like that analogy!

My favourite sentence in that nonsense was '...on the bizarre notion that services cease to be single-sex if trans people are allowed to use them.'

Of course services cease to be single-sex if people of a different sex use them.

Barking. Really no point in trying to reason with that amount of distorted thinking.

At this point it looks like a deliberate farcical joke: "How much stupid can we stuff into a single statement?" The idea that some people can be that dishonest (because it's dishonesty in this case, not just stupidity) saddens me quite a bit.

They freely use the word "intersex". Is that not an outdated term in the US then?