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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Crisis charity shop

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martipants · Today 12:10

Spotted outside a Crisis charity shop. I would be interested on thoughts on what is meant by Queer Resistance? Just not sure what this has to do with combating homelessness.

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Zoonosis · Today 12:33

Because LGBTQ+ people are over-represented in the homeless population, roughly 1 in 5 will experience homelessness at some point in their lives.

martipants · Today 13:23

Thank you zoonosis, I did not know this and it is genuinely interesting and concerning. I am still not sure what queer resistance means though and found that particular term fairly off putting

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floatingbagel · Today 13:31

i think queer resistance refers to queer people standing up to discrimination. it is definitely not trying to start a revolution. i wouldn’t worry yourself

FionnulaTheCooler · Today 13:35

Why do they feel the need to have "LGBT+ rights" and "Trans Rights" as two separate items, surely they would be covered by LGBT+ Rights?

MarieDeGournay · Today 13:38

'Queer resistance' is indeed a puzzler - resistance to, or by?
Like many lesbian and gay people, I resist the use of the word 'queer - not, as many do, because it is also used as a homophobic slur, but because it seems to have no real meaning and can mean anything at all in terms of sexual orientation - and sexual orientation is what defines being gay or lesbian.

'Queer resistance' evokes heroic struggles, brave fighters joining the Maquis, that kind of thing.. but that wouldn't make any sense, would it?
So back to square one...

Zoonosis · Today 13:41

MarieDeGournay · Today 13:38

'Queer resistance' is indeed a puzzler - resistance to, or by?
Like many lesbian and gay people, I resist the use of the word 'queer - not, as many do, because it is also used as a homophobic slur, but because it seems to have no real meaning and can mean anything at all in terms of sexual orientation - and sexual orientation is what defines being gay or lesbian.

'Queer resistance' evokes heroic struggles, brave fighters joining the Maquis, that kind of thing.. but that wouldn't make any sense, would it?
So back to square one...

Why wouldn't it make any sense to evoke brave and heroic struggles? How do you think LGBT people won any rights in the first place, by asking politely?

DialSquare · Today 13:45

I have donated to them in the past but as I don’t give my money to companies who promote the erosion of women’s rights, I will not be donating to them in the future.

MarieDeGournay · Today 13:49

Zoonosis · Today 13:41

Why wouldn't it make any sense to evoke brave and heroic struggles? How do you think LGBT people won any rights in the first place, by asking politely?

Well I can't speak for the 'T' in LGBT, because they do seem to have skipped straight to aggression and even violence, but yes that is how lesbian and gay rights were won - by 'asking politely', aka organising, campaigning, making representation to parliamentarians, resulting in the removal of anti-gay laws by peaceful and democratic means.

How do you think lesbian and gay rights were won in the first place?

MyAmpleSheep · Today 13:51

I wait to be schooled that LGB rights were won by all the brave T people in history.

MyAmpleSheep · Today 13:55

Zoonosis · Today 13:41

Why wouldn't it make any sense to evoke brave and heroic struggles? How do you think LGBT people won any rights in the first place, by asking politely?

Was there ever a gay equivalent of Bash Back? Did lesbians flash their breasts for equality? Was gay men’s pee left in bottles on doorsteps? Did homosexuals have placards saying that the “only good straight is a dead straight”?

MarieDeGournay · Today 13:58

MyAmpleSheep · Today 13:51

I wait to be schooled that LGB rights were won by all the brave T people in history.

Indeed, like all the time-travelling transpeople who travelled back from the 2020s and appeared at the Stonewall Gay Bar in June 1969...

Or the ones who travelled back from 2023 to magically appear in Dublin in 1983 to join the demonstration in memory of a murdered gay man - they even provided photographic proof that there were transpeople there in 1983, with maybe just the tiniest bit of help from Photoshop...

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EmpressaurusKitty · Today 14:07

Before anyone comes up with the nonsense that a black transwoman threw the first brick at Stonewall - he was a gay man & he wasn’t there until much later.

PrettyDamnCosmic · Today 14:16

MarieDeGournay · Today 13:38

'Queer resistance' is indeed a puzzler - resistance to, or by?
Like many lesbian and gay people, I resist the use of the word 'queer - not, as many do, because it is also used as a homophobic slur, but because it seems to have no real meaning and can mean anything at all in terms of sexual orientation - and sexual orientation is what defines being gay or lesbian.

'Queer resistance' evokes heroic struggles, brave fighters joining the Maquis, that kind of thing.. but that wouldn't make any sense, would it?
So back to square one...

'Queer resistance' evokes heroic struggles, brave fighters joining the Maquis, that kind of thing.. but that wouldn't make any sense, would it?

What is Queer Resistace?

Listen very carefully, I shall say this only once...

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IwantToRetire · Today 17:25

Zoonosis · Today 12:33

Because LGBTQ+ people are over-represented in the homeless population, roughly 1 in 5 will experience homelessness at some point in their lives.

I've checked the "facts" that Crisis use and as they are based on Stonewall research not sure they should be taken as fact.

MarieDeGournay · Today 17:33

IwantToRetire · Today 17:25

I've checked the "facts" that Crisis use and as they are based on Stonewall research not sure they should be taken as fact.

I don' t know what the methodology, sample size etc were, but it was YouGov who did the research.

IwantToRetire · Today 17:36

And of course it is widely known that women are more likely to be the "hidden homeless" because of the potential exploitation and abuse women face is so called homeless provision.

As well as all the young girls trying to escape sexual exploitation who are too old for a placement in a children's shelter and get placed in unregulated housing where likely as not, this housing will include homeless men who are pimps, drug dealers etc..

MummyWillow1 · Today 17:36

Zoonosis · Today 12:33

Because LGBTQ+ people are over-represented in the homeless population, roughly 1 in 5 will experience homelessness at some point in their lives.

This. Many young people end up homeless because their parents are bigots and disown them.

IwantToRetire · Today 17:40

Zoonosis · Today 12:33

Because LGBTQ+ people are over-represented in the homeless population, roughly 1 in 5 will experience homelessness at some point in their lives.

You misunderstand the research. Even assuming it is true that 1 in 5 experience homelessness what ever number that is, is tiny in proportion to those who dont just "experience" homelessness at some point as opposed to the long term homeless.

Still no brownie points for standing up to women fleeing domestic violence and or sexual exploitation, and what always was the largest % ex military.

murasaki · Today 17:44

MummyWillow1 · Today 17:36

This. Many young people end up homeless because their parents are bigots and disown them.

And some because they leave, not that they're thrown out, because their parents don't think damaging their health is a good idea and won't pay for it.

MarieDeGournay · Today 17:51

EmpressaurusKitty · Today 14:07

Before anyone comes up with the nonsense that a black transwoman threw the first brick at Stonewall - he was a gay man & he wasn’t there until much later.

A different version is that was a black butch lesbian drag king called Stormé DeLarverie who threw the first brick. Or the first punch. Or...

Clearly, there are a few mythologies about 'who threw the first brick', was it Stormé? was it somebody else? were there some very flamboyant drag queens there who embarrassed the hell out of the NY cops by saying suggestive things to them? - all of the above, probably, was it but it certainly wasn't anyone who identified as 'transgender', in 1969!

MarieDeGournay · Today 17:54

Zoonosis · Today 13:41

Why wouldn't it make any sense to evoke brave and heroic struggles? How do you think LGBT people won any rights in the first place, by asking politely?

I'm still hoping to get an answer to my earlier question to Zoonosis:

How do you think lesbian and gay rights were won in the first place?

IwantToRetire · Today 18:07

I could only find statistics from 2021 Census that includes in homeless figures sexuality. And, but not sure this is right, there wont be an updated on figures until 2031(?).

This is Crisis latest figures, which dont have any reference to sexuality, and although other data records by sex, somehow when it is a lone parent with child/ren sex is not shown / recorded.

https://www.crisis.org.uk/media/tn1i1hjf/the-homelessness-monitor-england-2025.pdf

https://www.crisis.org.uk/media/tn1i1hjf/the-homelessness-monitor-england-2025.pdf

IwantToRetire · Today 18:09

I wonder what percentage of younger people as a whole, school leavers, university graduates "experience" homelessness at some point.

IwantToRetire · Today 18:14

Seems that everyone collates figures differently, but in terms of say young people "experiencing" homelessness the highest figures are care leavers.

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