Should the gender recognition register be made public?

[ByTheRiverside]

When a transgender identified male wishes to change his birth certificate, he makes an application for a gender recognition certificate. If it's accepted, he will be placed on the gender recognition register for life. Right now, that register is private.

Should it be made public?

Why?

Isn't it visually obvious enough? Under what circumstances would one be able to check the register, and how would they go about it? How would this be of benefit?

OP, do you have an opinion on this?

What on earth possible justification could there be for making it public? It would be a massive violation of people's privacy - which like it or not they are entitled to - not to mention putting them at risk of targeted harassment campaigns.

I can’t really see the point either, given that most people with a ‘trans identity’ aren’t on it, and it doesn’t seem to be of any particular legal relevance now that the clarification re sex has happened.

What about transgender identified females?

How does a detransitioners reverse a GRC?

@ByTheRiverside Really bored of the recent polls on here, none of them at all helpful.

Why?

If someone changes their name by deed poll, is that stored anywhere on a central register - and if so is that public? (Genuine question, I don't know the answer.)

I think there's an argument to be made for there to be a way to keep track of both types of identity change so that DBS checks, Sarah's/Claire's law checks, offender registers etc can be run effectively. As a restricted system, rather than full public access.

I don't see the purpose of a fully public register.

No

No but I don’t think anyone who has gone through the process should be allowed to do any job that requires DBS checking.

Several threads like this atm. Should the gender recognition list be made public? Should gender reassignment cease to be a protected characteristic? Should the GRA be repealed?

Is this cluster of threads down to trolls trying to get screenshots of frothing hostility to transpeople? Or is it a feature of the increasing prevalence of right-wing posters on MN, with a tendency to weaponise talk of women's rights in order to perform hostility to certain groups?

I miss the era that started to end just a couple of years ago, in which all of the gender-critical posting came from left or centre women motivated by genuine feminism and a clear perception of how we can maintain a reasonable level of tolerance for transpeople whilst denying all of the 'transwomen are women' rhetoric and insisting on appropriate single-sex environments.

I can't think of a reason why it should be made public.
that being said a trans persons "dead name" should be available/easy to find and their new name shouldn't be seen as rewriting their history.

Can we stop with the random polls? They never go anywhere and it seems a waste of time.

Why do you think that?

Yes about 100 years later for genealogy reasons. It’s going to be a nightmare for future genealogy enthusiasts as-is.

So clearly TRAs screenshotting for Reddit etc.

Can't believe people think it's the "far-right".

In other news there's been a lot of rain over the past couple of weeks, I think the far-right are behind it.

I didn't say far right. I said right wing. You haven't noticed the increase in right-wing voices on MN?

No.

Are right-wing women incapable of 'genuine feminism'? Discuss.

No, what for? But, no-one should be able to sever the link between current and previous ID - e.g. for police checks - by being on it.

Not appreciating these comments that I'm either right wing or a TRA. I'm left wing and a sex realist.

I've asked this question because I believe there's a serious risk to safeguarding and security by allowing men to lie about their sex through an official record.

The record being away from public view means that the Government are supporting their lie. We know exactly why TIM's want to make this lie. I propose that the Government makes it possible to check.

I think this is a fair compromise. It would be silly to ask somebody for their birth certificate for access to a toilet. But there are circumstances where having some documented form of proof would be important, and right now there can't be any.

If the register were public, then very little legal change would have to happen. There would be a threshold where lying about your sex would no longer be possible to access protected spaces/positions.