Wikipedia founder: Both sides of the trans debate have been toxic

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Jimmy Wales both-siding it:
https://www.thetimes.com/article/08514912-bc06-4e47-8f31-52d548f588bf?shareToken=bfe6be0913401ff690d0d4af918a7cb3&ver=article

‘Just a lot of screaming’ – those women’s voices are so shrill I can’t even hear them.

‘It’s up to me, a white male, to stand back and be the reasonable one in this debate’.

And I’m so sick of references to a culture war. Does it ever occur to these smug goons that by using the very word ‘war’ , they are inciting violence against women? As in ‘your factual words deserve a response of violent threats and smeared faeces. You were asking for it, love.’

He suggests Wikipedia has tried to remain “useful” in polarising debates by “stepping back” to describe the wider issue, including things such as the use of personal pronouns.

Is that so? Wikipedia has “stepped back” has it? Wikipedia’s editing policy on gender critical matters and people would suggest Wikipedia gives zero fucks about being “balanced”. It’s picked a side and run with it.

“I think for us the fundamental is we do think for biographies of living people in particular, the principles of human dignity would be whatever people want to call themselves. That’s not taking an agenda position on anything other than that basic principle.”

The 'problem' for Wikipedia is GC ideology doesn't believe gender qualifies as a legitimate identity under the principle of human dignity so good luck selling that to them.

The ‘quality’ of his thinking is evident in this last paragraph:

”Instead, he hopes that AI will free up professionals from bureaucracy to allow them more time on the “human” sides of their roles.
“I’m just watching it very carefully,” he added.

“I saw something the other day that I haven’t had time to decide if I agree with or not but it’s worth thinking about.

“Which is if you say 40 per cent unemployment, that sounds terrible. If you say three-day work week, that sounds pretty good.””

A three day work week for those fortunate enough to keep their jobs doesn’t sound so great when you factor in that the salary for the role will reflect the shorter hours as companies pursue ever greater efficiencies. Or that the markets for the new AI driven work product will shrink as a smaller percentage will be able to afford to consume it.

I thought the wiki founder has also said the wiki is now so full of lies you cannot trust what is written?

So he's created something that is worth nothing but he's worth listening to?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha

Considering how little anyone can trust Wikipedia for accuracy, I suspect that this man has little respect for the truth.

It is certainly known how little control Wikipedia allows Women’s Rights campaigners to have over the inaccuracies published about them on the site.

Wikipedia is full of lies

So they haven’t taken a side but their mods are raving trans activists and they won’t accept GC sources?

Riiiiiggghhht. Sounds neutral to me.

I stopped donating to Wikipedia years ago and, every time they write asking for a donation, I reply and tell them exactly why I’m not supporting them.