Another NHS Trust perverts the course of justice in relation to a rape case.

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The Times report that staff at yet another NHS Trust have deliberately obstructed a police investigation into the rape of a mentally unwell young woman thinking she was a man and placed on a male mental health ward,

There are so many shocking aspects of this case, especially that the wrong man standing trial. What what stands out is that this was the result of the open refusal of staff to co operate with the police - including accidentally forwarding an internal email to the police stating "don't give them any more".

"South London and Maudsley NHS Foundation Trust said its decision to allow the victim onto the ward was in line with NHS England policy at the time. The trust apologised to police and the court over its failure to share information"

I note there's no mention of any member of staff being sanctioned for their behaviour. I suppose for Trusts who are used to ignoring / breaching the law of the land, perverting the course of justice is a minor matter.

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/nhs-thwarted-inquiry-rape-trans-patient-male-ward-ph266nnrk

archive link:

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Unbelievably awful, awful story. Will a single head roll? I doubt it.

What about apologising to the victim?

Yes. In addition to the victim, they've also enabled to incorrect prosecution of an innocent man.

It defies belief that their response is "We were following NHS policy". It really does speak to the presence of some very dangerous people in senior positions in the NHS, that things like can happen.

It's all a bit 'I was only following orders'.

An unbelievably tone deaf response from a Trust who are frankly complicit in enabling the rape of a young woman and then openly mislead the police as they try to investigate.
Surely these are disciplinary / resigning / dismissal matters?

Just what I was going to say, a completely invalid defence as famous trials have shown.

I want all those sex is a spectrum, you are who you say you are posters to come on here and defend this - this is what happens when your bonkers ideology is allowed to run rampant, come on defend it.

All those who enabled this whether by making, implementing or acting on this supposed Policy should be facing criminal charges.

Thank you for the link.

This is utterly outrageous. So many aspects of the story should have never happened: placing a mentally ill woman in a men's ward, not cooperating with the police, allowing a former patient they knew to be innocent to stand trial and intentionally withholding evidence of his innocence, perverting justice by telling staff to not cooperate with the investigation (WTAF???).

Heads should roll. At the very least, whoever wrote the email "don't give them any more" should be fired and anyone connected to this incident, especially policy makers, held accountable.

Absolutely.

Wonder what our new TWAW, TMAM Health Secretary will have to say about this.

This was a terrible case but it does seem to have shifted the needle a bit. The admissions process for Broadmoor Hospital is now finally male sex only! An absolute travesty that the managers in these trusts had to harm people before being forced to do the right thing….

'It was in line with our policy at the time'.

WTAF.

If you have a batshit (illegal) policy does that excuse duty of care and basic common sense?

Is that NOT their policy now? I thought the NHS trusts were clinging like grim death to gender, have they suddenly gone all SCJ and not told anyone?

That poor woman, what a truly wicked position to have put her in. The stupidity and irresponsibility is off the scale, a child could have risk assessed that.

Why on earth is the Times quoting Maloney (former boxing promoter)? 'Someone with a vagina'!? Fwiw I agree with everything else he says. I hope the woman that got raped and the man who was wrongly prosecuted, because literally the lunatics were running the asylum, sue. I hope the coppers put together a file for the CPS. They should already be sacked but I bet they aren't.

Maybe the police can bring a case against them, for interfering with the investigation?

Trans health care in the way that trans people dictate it must be hurts trans people. Who’d have thought it.

I think they should be matters for criminal charges. In addition to allowing a vulnerable woman into such a dangerous position, and causing her to be raped, staff there have obstructed justice and allowed an innocent and vulnerable man to spend three years in the shadow of a rape accusation. That's two patients to whom they owed a duty of care having their life torpedoed.

The trust should certainly be held liable to the fullest extent but so should the individual staff members who colluded in the obstruction of the police.

They should be done for perverting the course of justice and fucking locked up.

Theyve changed it for TIFs - male wards are male only. But so far Womens wards are still gender self ID…. the Boards of these Truats need to get prosecuted for corporate H&S failure

And the people who call it out are GC - but we’re the witches 🤷‍♀️

Absolutely. Perverting the course of justice is a crime, and to try to hinder a police investigation in a serious crime like rape is surely deserving of a custodial sentence. I'd lock up all those staff involved, along with the senior management for the next 20 years. Give them time to reflect on what they've done.

And that's not to mention the fact that they stuck a small, vulnerable young woman in a ward with a group of mentally ill and violent men. Surely that's a crime in itself? If not, why not?

So a woman can't be a man to the point all reality disappears and safety isn't an issue, so can't have self ID into male wards? But a man can be a woman and go wherever he likes and sod reality and safety?

Isn't it odd how it's possible to say 'no' to a woman, but not to a man? And how women always, always, always, get the shitty end of the stick? However they identify.

This again highlights how the NHS is operating in a moral and ethical vacuum. I've never got over the fact that some NHS staff wrote policy documents to enable transwomen sex offenders to be accommodated on women's wards. And many heads of Trusts signed off on them.

The attitudes towards this young women's safety and the refusal to cooperate with the police come from a deeply corrupt work environment where the normal standards of safety, acceptability and accountability have been warped.

Evidently some staff have thrived in an atmosphere where rape and corruption are enabled in the NHS.

So if we're looking at where this emenates from, that self serving whine of a statement from the Trust suggests that these behaviours have been enabled from the very top.
Edited to add that I resent having to see any staff in the NHS in this way - but when an organisation shows us who they really are, we need to start believing them.....

Just when think they can't get any worse, another NHS Trust says, hold my beer. Absolutely appalling, and should surely mean jail time for some at that hospital.

Despite the number of women working in and using the NHS there is deep seated, utterly damaging misogyny running rife within it.

The number and frequency of scandals surrounding women's health, particularly in maternity, speaks volumes.

Now the NHS is facilitating rape by their slavish adherence to gender ideology and covering it up.

There are serious problems within this institution.

They knew exactly what would happen when they put a woman in a ward full of men. They can’t possibly not have known. So these staff - people we trust to look after the most vulnerable - knowingly facilitated the rape of a young woman. Not only that, they then wilfully obstructed the efforts of the police to investigate it.

From the CPS:

Some examples of what may amount to a charge of perverting the course of justice include:

• causing a person to be arrested or to fall under suspicion;
• materially affecting proceedings e.g. obtaining bail when it might not have been obtained, receiving a sentence which might not otherwise have been passed;
• persuading, or attempting to persuade, by intimidation, harm or otherwise, a witness not to give evidence, to alter their evidence or to give false evidence
• interference with jurors with a view to influencing their verdict;
• false alibis and interference with evidence or exhibits;
• giving false information, or agreeing to give false information, to the police with a view to frustrating a police inquiry; for example, lying as to who was driving when a road traffic accident occurred;
• lending a driving licence to another to produce to the police following a notice to produce, thereby avoiding an offence of driving whilst disqualified being discovered;
• agreeing to give false evidence;
• concealing or destroying evidence or providing a false alibi;
• assisting others to evade arrest for a significant period of time.

https://www.cps.gov.uk/prosecution-guidance/public-justice-offences

causing a person to be arrested or to fall under suspicion is first on the list

Yep - but now that they admit they can administer a policy based on sex no problem for males…. Slippery slope….