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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Desexing of girls and women words

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JustSayMother · 13/05/2026 22:14

Desexing of women's words, campaigning to save our words has been so difficult, as we cannot be seen, even mumsnet has kept silence of the erasing of our words, we are on substack and X, can anyone tells us why sex based language matters to you, so we can share the comments on our X account and Substack we will just use your wording and not your names @justsay_mother

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PermanentTemporary · 13/05/2026 22:19

I’d rather you didn’t use my words, but…

Because being female, being a woman, is real and meaningful. Taking the words, the numbers and the facts for female people and applying them to male people is the most obvious kind of sexist triumphalism, designed to eliminate female reality as something worthy of respect, and I will never understand why it became a progressive shibboleth to do it. Taking the word for a male person and using it for a female person is a way of hiding the crime.

AMansAManForAllThat · 13/05/2026 22:22

Because women’s words recognise the additional challenges faced by those women.
Because women get overlooked and ignored, it’s important not to do that linguistically as well.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 14/05/2026 07:38

Throughout the ages, and in many countries today, women have had no agency and no voice in their societies. Without the words that we choose to define us, and only us, we’ll go back to being the faceless fixtures and fittings of a male dominated society that we were for so very long.
Without the words that acknowledge our existence, that allow us to express the concerns we have about our existence, and the problems that affect us and only us, we will not be able to change our place in the world to that as equal in existence and worth.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 14/05/2026 08:40

Because language matters.
Be clear.
Name the problem. Without the words to do that accurately, we are lost.
And to TRAs: find your own words. The word woman is taken.

TheSandgroper · 14/05/2026 08:42

Because I am here, with two feet upon this earth, just as much as anybody else. I am not them and they are not me.

Thank you @JustSayMother

Shedmistress · 14/05/2026 08:46

We need words to describe the things we are talking about, and one of those words, indeed the oldest word in any language is 'mother'. We cannot let men who have a mental health problem take away fundamental basic human communication.

Bertiebiscuit · 16/05/2026 00:26

In a city farm i visited recently the sign warning about hygiene stated "Pregnant people should not touch.......". It's bloody infuriating, there are only pregnant women, words fail me really, the world has gone mad. This from an organisation that dignifies goats, sheep, hens and pigs with the correct sex but not humans.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 16/05/2026 08:45

Bertiebiscuit · 16/05/2026 00:26

In a city farm i visited recently the sign warning about hygiene stated "Pregnant people should not touch.......". It's bloody infuriating, there are only pregnant women, words fail me really, the world has gone mad. This from an organisation that dignifies goats, sheep, hens and pigs with the correct sex but not humans.

"Pregnant people should not touch......."

It's so unnecessary when the sign could read

"If you might be pregnant please do not touch"

JustSayMother · 17/05/2026 22:31

but why can't they just say pregnant women or mum to be, what is this saying to young girls, that they cannot call themselves women and mothers when they grow up, it is so very sad!

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SexRealistic · 17/05/2026 23:29

I am not a chest feeder, I am breastfeeding.

The most nurturing caring process afforded to women after creating new life is named to accommodate those who deny the very pinnacle experiences of their biological sex.

mathanxiety · 17/05/2026 23:34

Because erasure of the lived bodily experience of over half the population of the planet is a hostile act, and it is necessary to question the motives and full intent of those who wish to do so.

Justme56 · 18/05/2026 01:05

The GLP recently referred to a person’s body parts as ‘her testes’. That’s the reality of gender v sex. Female pronouns for male genitalia makes a nonsense out of language.

JustSayMother · 19/05/2026 16:06

what is the end game to redefine what a women is and allow men to breastfeed? Never seen this before in our lifetime, how did they manage to convince everyone that saying pregnant women is not inclusive and is hateful not to say pregnant people, it is all so depressing

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GreyskySexRealistsky · 19/05/2026 16:16

It is intended to be inclusive of women who identify as men (transmen) but don't want to be reminded of the fact that they are women.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 19/05/2026 16:33

GreyskySexRealistsky · 19/05/2026 16:16

It is intended to be inclusive of women who identify as men (transmen) but don't want to be reminded of the fact that they are women.

I agree but every time I've said such a thing it's provoked a storm of protest, because it's nothing to do with the women it's 'all to do with men who claim they're women'.
Even if you point out quite reasonable 'pregnant person' can't refer to the men who claim they're women because they can't get pregnant, the Women Can Do No Wrong brigade won't be having it.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 19/05/2026 16:40

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 19/05/2026 16:33

I agree but every time I've said such a thing it's provoked a storm of protest, because it's nothing to do with the women it's 'all to do with men who claim they're women'.
Even if you point out quite reasonable 'pregnant person' can't refer to the men who claim they're women because they can't get pregnant, the Women Can Do No Wrong brigade won't be having it.

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A storm of protest where? Not doubting you, just wondered.

Primarily it's to include women who identify as men, e.g. in NHS services.

The creepy men who identify as women and attempt to breastfeed (boak) aren't the main target group here, but obviously they benefit from this usage.

MagpiePi · 19/05/2026 16:45

Because things need to have their own names with clear definitions.

If I decide any colourless liquid is ‘water’, nobody’s going to be very happy if I give them a glass of hydrochloric acid to drink.

LordEmsworthsGirlfriend · 19/05/2026 17:03

The coyness around acknowledging the existence of women in ultraconservative Islamic climates led Iran to rename International Women's Day 'Family Day', just as in the Gulf women have to sit in the 'family section' of restaurants. The change to the intent conveyed is self evident.

WallaceinAnderland · 19/05/2026 17:04

If you can't define something, you can't protect it in law.

QldGCandproud · 19/05/2026 21:28

The mother-child dyad is the most important relationship on the planet, and that insults men's sense of importance. We've been sold the story that romantic love is the primary relationship. Motherhood, and the female connection to all life threatens male superiority, so to destroy the language is a way to cut the thread and maintain the belief that women need men more than men need women.

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