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AidaP is scraping Mumsnet threads, and grading them

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BambooLampshade · 28/04/2026 21:15

Honestly, this man is obsessed. He has now created a program to scrape and grade Mumsnet threads from this board.

What is this?

Oh yes, I have downloaded most of mumsnet and we will be doing embeddings of the content to try to understand how does the rot and hate builds and spreads.

I never had so much hate and delusion on my hard drive before 😅

https://bsky.app/profile/aidap.bsky.social/post/3mkklbtpgbs2s

Aida (@aidap.bsky.social)

What is this? Oh yes, I have downloaded most of mumsnet and we will be doing embeddings of the content to try to understand how does the rot and hate builds and spreads. I never had so much hate and delusion on my hard drive before 😅

https://bsky.app/profile/aidap.bsky.social/post/3mkklbtpgbs2s

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SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 29/04/2026 14:14

Boiledbeetle · 29/04/2026 14:11

I thought I imagined them in my memories. So they DID have raisins in them.

I too questioned my memory fror many years but the internet confirmed the truth - raisins were an integral part of the base from introduction in 1976 until the mid 80's when they were removed 'based on consumer feedback'

nois · 29/04/2026 14:14

they’re literally talking to themselves on blue sky, except for one or two echo chamber bot replies. What’s the appeal of bluesky?

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 14:21

Catiette · 29/04/2026 13:40

Hazel, I'm the last to condemn wordiness (my biggest MN fault!), but in your rather resolute erudition, you're sometimes misusing words in a way that can undermine your content.

One example that did make me smile: "I understand your immediate, pathological fear - it's justifiable - but what difference does his behaviour make?"

I mean, without even knowing the meaning of pathological, there are some very mixed messages there. But with it...

pathological adjective (NOT CONTROLLED) (of a person) unable to control part of their behaviour; unreasonable: I've got a pathological fear of heights.
Anthony's a pathological liar.

Add your opening "You're getting confused again" in this context - the patronising tone rather enjoyably compounds the ironc - and some of your posts (like the essay one, for example) do start to feel a bit parodic. If this is your intention, cool, but if not, and you genuinely want serious engagement...

My words are clear and accurate.

That you struggle with comprehension is neither my fault nor concern.

What I'm more interested in is the assertion by some posters that I am this AidaP person of whom I've absolutely never heard and know absolutely nothing about.

A shocking accusation.

Boiledbeetle · 29/04/2026 14:22

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 29/04/2026 14:14

I too questioned my memory fror many years but the internet confirmed the truth - raisins were an integral part of the base from introduction in 1976 until the mid 80's when they were removed 'based on consumer feedback'

Hmmm, more like it's cheaper to make without them.

Boiledbeetle · 29/04/2026 14:31

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 14:21

My words are clear and accurate.

That you struggle with comprehension is neither my fault nor concern.

What I'm more interested in is the assertion by some posters that I am this AidaP person of whom I've absolutely never heard and know absolutely nothing about.

A shocking accusation.

it may seem shocking to you, but it is understandable when people read his posts and then your posts.

Unfortunately, for you, your claims about men who identify as women, your sex, your way of addressing the mainly women posters on FWR, along with your opening shot across the bows of "anti trans brigade" on your thread the other day means your posting styles appear to be too similar. Then add in that your user name according to a previous poster only came into existence after Aida was banned.

So whilst I haven't accused you of being him I can understand the many reasons why some posters may have reached the conclusion that you are the same person.

Catiette · 29/04/2026 14:32

I found the line - I am a transwoman and a woman, not a man - very interesting.

It sums up the issue, for me:

Hazel gets 2 nouns to use to describe them. I - we! - get none. Zilch. Nothing.

If "woman" is used for "transwoman", it can't apply to me or even, frankly, most women globally, in the way in which we conceive of ourselves. "Ciswoman" certainly doesn't, because this only functions on the assumption that 1) transwomen are a kind of women and 2) I "identify with my gender" (or whatever equivalent phrase you prefer). "Female" is inadequate and even somewhat degrading used as an adjectival noun, indiscriminately applicable as it is to animals, too. Just as some female animals get their own words besides this, I rather think adult human females are deserving of a unique semantic marker too (I mean, WOW - that I even have to type that is fucking terrifying!!!)

So yes, there's absolutely an ethical debate to be had here. Yes, there are two conflicting sides. Yes, given this, rights aren't a pie and compromises must be made. (Anyone who argues against this now either isn't really following this debate, or denies the validity of female voices full-stop, as well as the Supreme Court, really!)

So, from a democratic, left-leaning and liberal perspective - just as someone fair-minded and practical - I find it astonishing that

  1. People so confident that they're on the side of right are confidently laying claim to the very language necessary to enable the other "side" even to participate in said debate

and

  1. Those same people are arguing for the right to self-definition in a way that denies another group the same. They have "transwomen" (I actually think it was generous of women even to permit this, but they need something and it works for them, so great, that's fine by me) but they also lay claim to the one and only word the other side has (and has used for millenia) - "woman".

To me, whatever else about this debate maybe difficult or problematic or troubling, it always comes back to the inescapable truth that whereas one group argues that the other should retain the ability and right to refer to and advocate for themselves as a distinct political demographic (GC feminists), the other side seeks to deny their "opponents" the same (TRAs).

The other thing that assures me of my "side" in this debate is that, if we move from the democratic argument based on fairness, above, to a utilitarian one - what's practical...

Historically speaking, of these two conflicting groups, only one - the one now without a name - was systemically and proactively denied a political voice to advocate for their rights just a 100 years or so ago. To me, it's self-evident that the ready large-scale removal of this group's language and recognition as a distinct demographic (I mean, I can't even use "women" here to unambiguously make this argument without qualifying it with eg. the adjective "biological" - it's appalling!) is in fact a reflection of how fragile (biological) women's rights still are.

And if we, conversely, use an argument of scale... When you think about the numbers of deaths, women are dying in their millions globally (and tens of thousands just in the UK, eg. due to car design and heart attack treatment relying on the male default). And women are enslaved in Afghanistan and other countries (in a way that had the western world in furious conflict and at war when it affected Black slaves and South African apartheid: not so much for women who, conversely, are being told they they're morally dubious even for wanting to use their old word to unambiguously describe these abuses). Those numbers vastly overshadow any others.

Hazel, the tone of your posts means I don't really expect or hope for a meaningful reply to this (I've never had one yet that comes close to addressing these points without evasion, misrepresentation or insult). Plus, I'm hoping to get back to work soon! But if your posts here, and your "essay", genuinely aren't intended to be parody or somewhat absurdist (still unsure, tbh) and you really do believe you have the intellectual and moral highground(?!), maybe you could think back to your misuse of "pathological" and consider that there may be similar inconsistencies, ironies and glaring omissions in your arguments about women's rights. Posters here expect a high standard of debate on this very tough issue.

ETA before posting: Just seen your last post to me. So, yeah, that would fall under the category of evasion (now bolded above for reference).

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 29/04/2026 14:33

Boiledbeetle · 29/04/2026 14:22

Hmmm, more like it's cheaper to make without them.

You might that but I couldn't possibly comment

BackToLurk · 29/04/2026 14:36

Can nobody just spare a thought for how devastated Aida is going to be that he’s not known in the single-voiced, trans community.

Sad times.

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 14:45

BackToLurk · 29/04/2026 14:36

Can nobody just spare a thought for how devastated Aida is going to be that he’s not known in the single-voiced, trans community.

Sad times.

It's enough for AidaP that she's known in the single-minded Mumsnet community...

Boiledbeetle · 29/04/2026 14:48

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 14:45

It's enough for AidaP that she's known in the single-minded Mumsnet community...

Yes, I'm sure he thinks about it often.

Way to often.

Luckily he can only read our words and not our minds.

BackToLurk · 29/04/2026 14:54

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 14:45

It's enough for AidaP that she's known in the single-minded Mumsnet community...

He does seems rather obsessed with Mumsnet doesn’t he? I spotted that too.

BIWI · 29/04/2026 15:04

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 29/04/2026 14:33

You might that but I couldn't possibly comment

Not quite - raisins are an ingredient that turn out to be quite polarising, like coconut and dark chocolate and cherry. Companies like Cadbury need to make products that sell in large volumes, so can't afford to keep on manufacturing products that fewer consumers like. so yes in one way it's about money, because they sell less, but it isn't about raisins being a more expensive ingredient.

(I did a lot of work with Cadbury over the years, in different agencies I worked for).

FlirtsWithRhinos · 29/04/2026 15:07

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 09:59

That's quite alright; your ignorance is forgivable. But try to stay on the topic of the thread as I have done in previous posts, hmmm?
If you want to mindlessly attack me, please do so in another thread or in my DMs.
Thanks 😊

Do you understand that just as you feel "mindlessly attacked" by women not accepting your definition of "woman" as something mental rather than physical, so many women also feel "mindlessly attacked" by your insistence that we do?

EmpressaurusKitty · 29/04/2026 15:08

FlirtsWithRhinos · 29/04/2026 15:07

Do you understand that just as you feel "mindlessly attacked" by women not accepting your definition of "woman" as something mental rather than physical, so many women also feel "mindlessly attacked" by your insistence that we do?

He doesn’t want to understand. He just wants to keep mansplaining, which he does very well, & winding everyone up.

ArabellaScott · 29/04/2026 15:09

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 29/04/2026 14:14

I too questioned my memory fror many years but the internet confirmed the truth - raisins were an integral part of the base from introduction in 1976 until the mid 80's when they were removed 'based on consumer feedback'

Somebody told me yesterday that Topics are extinct!!!

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 29/04/2026 15:14

If I have deeply held inner feelings that I'm a squirrel, have I infact become a sort of squirrel?

Obviously not.

I seriously don't care how anyone wants to identify, crack on. Angel, opposite sex, Klingon, furry, you do you. I care very much that men don't trample women or use them in their self expression. The limits are other people's rights and boundaries, their needed spaces and resources. And that many men really, really, (many many threads of wangling) don't like this or want to respect them, or accept that women are equal to them in terms of need, consideration, rights, is why women have and need rights in law.

If you don't believe women are equal humans, and shouldn't be allowed to refuse consent to being used by men, or permitted even words of their own... it's an opinion. As is mine that I'm a squirrel.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 29/04/2026 15:19

Chocolate raisins are wonderful.

BettyBooper · 29/04/2026 15:20

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 14:45

It's enough for AidaP that she's known in the single-minded Mumsnet community...

He's a 'she' now?

SionnachRuadh · 29/04/2026 15:21

I haven't had rum and raisin ice cream for years. I wouldn't mind some now.

borntobequiet · 29/04/2026 15:23

All this talk of scraping is setting my teeth on edge.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 29/04/2026 15:24

........but the actual laws that forbid AidaP doing what she's doing.

You said you had never heard of him.
@HazelLemur

PrettyDamnCosmic · 29/04/2026 15:40

murasaki · 29/04/2026 13:37

What a creepy smile.

It's the typical AGP smirk. They all have it.

NotAtMyAge · 29/04/2026 15:47

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 10:17

And yet you continue...

Let's see if we can get you back on topic. What are your thoughts about what has been discussed with regards to AidaP's scraping and grading?
Why do you think AidaP may be doing this?
Do you think there's anything in law that can be done?

I'd be interested in anything relevant you have to say.

My guess is that the hormones have fried his brain. 😉 Since name changing is frequent on Mumsnet, any attempt to grade individual posters reliably is doomed to failure from the start. Still, if it keeps him out of other mischief...

DialSquare · 29/04/2026 15:48

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 29/04/2026 15:19

Chocolate raisins are wonderful.

I don’t mind them but I was fuming when they were swapped for the peanuts in Revels. Even though I understand why.

quantumbutterfly · 29/04/2026 15:49

DialSquare · 29/04/2026 15:48

I don’t mind them but I was fuming when they were swapped for the peanuts in Revels. Even though I understand why.

Revels roulette was trying to avoid the coffee creme.

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