SNP candidates vow to fight for ‘bodily autonomy’ of trans people

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What a bunch of muppets.
https://www.thetimes.com/article/9967bd17-6e7d-4378-a1f7-82a7254793f0?shareToken=7ba782fa7b57ec717ba4ecb3d73aa032&ver=article

I want some bodily autonomy too. Not to have males - however they identify - in female spaces, or taking a '1st lady' ranking (looking at you, Parkrun) or whatever.
Why isn't my bodily autonomy important? I thought #metoo had started a wave of interest in 'no means no'.
So, I have autonomy, and 'no means no'. I don't want males taking and using prizes and spaces meant for females. That's my autonomy talking. Because my views and wants and needs are just as important as a male's.

Have all the bodily autonomy you want lads. But NHS supplied hormones or getting a free pair of fake breasts - that isn’t autonomy. It’s treating a mental health condition - gender dysphoria with physical medications and consequences.

Most concerning thing is the attempt to control parents or therapists who don’t automatically affirm. That’s forced thought - 2+2=5.

SNP deserved to get wiped out.

Oh bloody hell another coded phrase to learn. "Bodily autonomy" = give us all the drugs and surgery we want.

It's a clever phrasing. It's what women fight for when they fight for reproductive rights.

Nobody cares what adults do to their bodies, but using taxpayer’s cash for cosmetic surgery is unpopular.

Bodily autonomy in the feminist movement wasn't just about the freedom to choose whether we use our bodies to have sex, give birth, etc. Our foremothers also fought for a standard of care in obstetrics, alleviating the symptoms of menopause, mental health, and removing our husbands from the driver's seat when it comes to our own cancer care.

I realize that those are things that still need fighting for, especially menopause and reproductive health, but my point is how very different the perspective of bodily autonomy is in this movement.

"The SNP, in its manifesto set out last week, said: “Conversion practices are harmful, abhorrent and abusive actions intended to change or suppress an individual’s sexual orientation or gender identity.
“Should the UK government fail to bring forward legislation to ban conversion practices, we … will introduce legislation within the first year of the new parliament to permanently end these practices.”

It's just utter bollocks, they've not only hijacked 'bodily autonomy' from the women's movement but conversion practice from the gay rights movement.

There's no genuine concern in the real world that people have campaigned for or against for decades that they haven't subverted to prop up their delusional ideology.

The most sickening thing is the polls indicate the SNP will be returned to power, so it is likely that the next 4 years will be consumed by this utter bollocks as well.

It's the same in Wales, Plaid Cymru's manifesto is full of this rubbish as well, but the leaflets coming through the door make no mention of it.

Most people don't bother to read a party's manifesto they just go by the highlights, anyone voting for SNP/PC might not realise that this is what they've voting for.

Kirsten Oswald is expected to become an MSP. I was hoping we'd seen the last of her when she lost her Westminster seat.

Does the SNP’s version of ‘bodily autonomy’ include giving children the autonomy to choose to poison themselves with alcohol or nicotine? Does it include giving children the autonomy to choose to modify their bodies with tattoos or scarification?

Even if we allow people a right to do what they like with their own bodies, this doesn't automatically translate into a right to have the state pay for it.

Does the SNP’s version of ‘bodily autonomy' include allowing bodybuilders free access to anabolic steroids?

BTW Testosterone is an anabolic steroid

Does the SNP’s version of ‘bodily autonomy' include a young girl's (usually) desire to loose weight because she identifies as fat, even though she's a 5 stone bag of skin and bones.

Do they want her to have the right to Ozempic, so her perceptions of herself can be validated, and will they consider any doctor who won't prescribe her it to be guilty of 'conversion therapy'.

Sadly, they’re set to win 🙈

Autonomy over someone’s own body is such a dishonest way to describe what the issue is.

Extreme body modifications are just that, extreme body modifications. What this group are minimising is that they they demand that those electively sought extreme body modifications changes their sex category for the purpose of access to sex based provisions.

Imagine if they were campaigning that any male who had extreme body modifications should be safe and accepted in male single sex provisions ? A completely different political objective.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant It's just utter bollocks, they've not only hijacked 'bodily autonomy' from the women's movement but conversion practice from the gay rights movement.

It's a feature of the trans movement - lacking history and a basis in reality, they co-opt other people's, the women's movement and the gay rights movement.

An example of the former is appropriating the suffragist movement as some kind of precursor, and there are lots of examples - tagging the T onto the lesbian and gay movement being the obvious one.

There are two really egregious examples of the trans movement, which is a relatively recent phenomenon, rewriting history to create a false backstory for themselves:

The Stonewall Bar riots in New York city in 1969, which was a hugely significant, some say formative, event in the history of the lesbian and gay rights movement - this has been 'transed' by claiming that it was led by transwomen, which is inaccurate. It was a gay bar, attended by lesbian and gay people, and it was lesbian and gay people who had enough of police harassment, and fought back. The trans movement hadn't even been invented yet.

Even more disturbingly, the 2023 Pride organisers in Dublin 'photoshopped' TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS onto a photograph of one of the first lesbian and gay demonstration in Ireland in 1983. They didn't even respect the fact that this demonstration was protesting the brutal homophobic murder of a gay man, it was just grist to the mill of historical revisionism to invent a trans history.
Shameless.

Buffoons!!

Demonstrating yet again that they're not a party that prioritises the safety and dignity of women and girls.

Looking again at that lesbian and gay protest in Dublin in the 1980s - it's worth noting that 'violence against women' was literally front and centre, closely followed by a lesbian banner.

It demonstrates how much was lost from the lesbian and gay community over the years, especially when the T was unaccountably added and subsequently took over.

Yep. Sometimes the twisted rhetoric comes frighteningly close to a blank-faced evil in its bloody minded appropriation of anything that can be used to further TRA demands. Genocide, forced childbirth - nothing makes them think "oh, is making that comparison maybe a little bit too much?"

"Don't force me to carry a child I don't want" becomes "Don't question me if I want to destroy my health by turning myself into a superficial facsimile of the opposite sex because I'm too sexist to believe I can exist as I in reality do" becomes "Pay for me to destroy my health turning myself into a superficial facsimile of the opposite sex. Don't even think about questioning why you should be validating my extreme sexism, just pay."

Bodily autonomy is exclusive control over your own body, all of the locations in these examples are situated comfortably outside the confines of the bodies of the individuals.

What you are missing here is: "I don't want my female body to be used by men to validate their made up identity or feed their fetish."

Because we all know that is what's going on in these situations.

I have a right to say no to my body being used in this way.