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Security Stories - Bouncer Discusses His Experience of Interacting with Trans Patrons

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UtopiaPlanitia · Yesterday 02:48

I'm watching my way through this video and thought it might of interest here.

It's the owner of a security company that used to provide bouncers for gay clubs discussing his experience of dealing with trans-identified customers and his concerns about how Genderism is reducing safety for women.

Security Stories - The Trans Debate Nobody In Security Will Talk About On Camera

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GarlicFind · Yesterday 03:39

Interesting video. I hope it gets wider exposure. For those who just want a summary, here's my effort:

The YouTuber runs a small security firm, which gets a lot of work from Brighton nightclubs because there are not too many firms who will handle them. He's been doing this since before the trans explosion.

Remarking on the 'trans' clientele, he splits them into four segments:

  1. Female transitioners (trans men, who are biological women). He says they're never any trouble.
  2. Gay, effeminate males. He does a bit of inaccurate diagnosis on them but says, I think correctly, that these are the 'trans women' everyone wants to help and support. He says there are very few of these and they just want to be left to do their thing.
  3. Drag queens. He portrays these as prone to huge bitch-fights, while also saying they're humorous with it and make up again afterwards.
  4. Masculine 'women'. He says these are trouble, aggressive, entitled, and often to be found harassing and sexually assaulting women in the toilets. They're the majority of the trans clientele.
He also says lesbians are quite uncomfortable in mixed clubs, feeling the gay men make them unwelcome and the masculine trans women pressure them sexually.

He makes a reasonable assessment of how and why Stonewall pivoted, how it achieved 'untouchable' status for these trans women, and the vast swathes of professionals making similar observations but unable to state their cases. He mentions the issues associated with trans women in female prisons, relating this back to what's happening in the clubs:

[21:47] Biological males that are transitioned to women are many many times more likely to be uh violent sex offenders than just an average straight male. So, they are highly represented in very unpleasant areas.

And I don't think that's because becoming trans turns you into a dangerous predator. I think it's the reverse.

Like I've just said, I think it's because dangerous predators are attracted to put themselves under the banner of trans because it gives them protection. It gives them a kind of cloak of invisibility and it protects them from criticism and they can operate and do what they want and they can almost get away with it.

That's the danger of refusing to have any open conversation on this subject is that you're aiding those people. You know,

[22:42] there are predators who are doing exactly that. And our refusal to have open conversations in this subject matter and being shut down and having people screaming in your face and saying you're not allowed to talk about that. You're just aiding and abetting a bunch of violent, disgusting perverts.

And that's also damaging for the trans community because who's really suffering? We've got the victims of the crimes that are suffering, but also no one's really protecting the actual trans community.

Because if you really are trans because you've got hormonal issues or whatever it is and you truly are trans, do you really want those kind of people ingressing into your community and bringing it into dispute? Of course, you wouldn't want that. [23:28]

To conclude:

[26:53] Some of you may believe what I've just said is some sort of extreme view. Well, I think you should readjust your viewpoint. This is not an extreme view. Taking security of everyone seriously is not an extremist viewpoint. It's just called taking security seriously.

You know, I'm not some political uh ideologue. I just care about people being safe. And that that's why I did the job I did because I cared about people being safe. And you can uh take that however you want. Thanks for watching. Have a great weekend. I'll catch you next time.

UtopiaPlanitia · Yesterday 03:47

Thanks for summarising for those without time to watch the video.

I'm glad to see men with relevant knowledge speaking up to support the serious points women have been making.

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SylvanMoon · Yesterday 06:24

He's making an excellent point. Thank you for this. @GarlicFind could I possibly share your summary with a link to the video on my FB page, either crediting you or not (as you like)?

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 06:28

Thanks for the link, he's right about invisible, all those handmaidens who won't see the truth of the situation, are their cloak of invisibility. Useful idiots one and all. 😤

Tallisker · Yesterday 12:14

Well he’s a chunky monkey! Look at those arms 🥰 (shallow as a puddle, me)

FictionalCharacter · Yesterday 13:01

Thanks for the summary @GarlicFind . I think he’s spot on.

GarlicFind · Yesterday 13:03

SylvanMoon · Yesterday 06:24

He's making an excellent point. Thank you for this. @GarlicFind could I possibly share your summary with a link to the video on my FB page, either crediting you or not (as you like)?

Yes, sure! Thanks for helping to increase awareness.

Toseland · Yesterday 13:11

Yes I've watched this too. Great summary @GarlicFind He knows these men are more dangerous - why don't women?!

SylvanMoon · Yesterday 14:08

GarlicFind · Yesterday 13:03

Yes, sure! Thanks for helping to increase awareness.

Would you like me to say it was from you and MN or just from "a friend"?

GarlicFind · Yesterday 16:24

SylvanMoon · Yesterday 14:08

Would you like me to say it was from you and MN or just from "a friend"?

Whichever you like 🙂 It's only a summary of the transcript.

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