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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

SNP is planning to implement a new human rights bill, which could allow men into women spaces

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IwantToRetire · 17/04/2026 02:07

SNP slammed for 'reckless' plot to push toxic gender reforms through 'back door' Trojan horse bill

The SNP’s 72-page election manifesto completely scrubs any mention of the toxic Gender Recognition Reform (GRR) bill, which sparked a civil war within the party and was ultimately blocked by the UK Government.

But critics fear the nationalist government is preparing to implement the exact same policies by stealth, using a sweeping new piece of legislation to force public bodies into compliance.

Tucked away in the manifesto is a pledge to introduce a new "Human Rights Bill" in the next parliament.

Just pages later, the document explicitly ties the concept of human rights to gender identity, promising: "We are committed to upholding and protecting the human rights of trans people as far as possible within our powers."

Full article https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/snp-slammed-reckless-plot-push-37028549

(which is of course what many of us suspect Labour will try and do in the HoC.)

SNP slammed for 'reckless' plot to push gender reforms through 'back door' bill

Exclusive: The Nationalist government is planning to implement a new human rights bill, which could allow men into women spaces

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/snp-slammed-reckless-plot-push-37028549

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ElenOfTheWays · 17/04/2026 02:14

Hopefully they won't get the chance.

moto748e · 17/04/2026 02:25

So presumably this is the point where Scottish Labour make themselves clear?

MyAmpleSheep · 17/04/2026 02:47

Why will this not also invite a Section 35 order, just like the GRR bill did, and for the same reasons?

tobee · 17/04/2026 03:07

They’re absolutely fucking obsessed. Who’s funding them and this dogma?

IwantToRetire · 17/04/2026 03:11

MyAmpleSheep · 17/04/2026 02:47

Why will this not also invite a Section 35 order, just like the GRR bill did, and for the same reasons?

Off the top of my head, as it being late ate night, the EA is UK wide (or maybe not NI) so Scottish Parliament couldn't change or attempt to give it a different meaning, which is why UK Government intervened.

This an attempt, apparently, to draft a Human Rights Bill (just for Scotland?).

But have no idea in terms of the UK as a whole whether a Scottish Human Rights Bill could over ride the UK wide EA.

Or maybe Scots get to have the advantage of different bills which would given them greater choice to decide under which section of which act they want to make a claim.

I am sure someone with real political knowledge of the UK will clarify this within the next few hours!

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KnottyAuty · 17/04/2026 07:15

IwantToRetire · 17/04/2026 03:11

Off the top of my head, as it being late ate night, the EA is UK wide (or maybe not NI) so Scottish Parliament couldn't change or attempt to give it a different meaning, which is why UK Government intervened.

This an attempt, apparently, to draft a Human Rights Bill (just for Scotland?).

But have no idea in terms of the UK as a whole whether a Scottish Human Rights Bill could over ride the UK wide EA.

Or maybe Scots get to have the advantage of different bills which would given them greater choice to decide under which section of which act they want to make a claim.

I am sure someone with real political knowledge of the UK will clarify this within the next few hours!

This is crazy! Theyve had a Supreme Court judgment detailing all the ways in which gender self ID doesn’t work legally.

Now they want to hand FWS a route to get that confirmed in the European HR courts too?

Well bring on the batshit i say - as quickly as possible this needs to be encouraged and pushed ahead so it can be just as quickly hobbled!

ETA like Dr Upton, Scotgov seem to be doing a marvellous service for feminism across the world by being unyielding and so prepared to fight unwinnable legal cases… thank you for your service SNP!

ArabellaScott · 17/04/2026 08:54

ElenOfTheWays · 17/04/2026 02:14

Hopefully they won't get the chance.

They will almost certainly win the election. Whether they will have a majority or not is unclear.

ArabellaScott · 17/04/2026 08:58

moto748e · 17/04/2026 02:25

So presumably this is the point where Scottish Labour make themselves clear?

They have done so in their manifesto.

However, this is undermined by BP and the govt refusing to publish the new Guidance til after the Scottish election.

I have a rather horrible feeling they are playing bait and switch - promising women's rights from Scottish Labour but withholding it from Westminster.

Its a bargaining chip for them. Perhaps in the way that abortion has been used in the US as a tool to get women to vote Democrat, but by never properly legislating on it they have a never ending way to squeeze votes out of women.

ArabellaScott · 17/04/2026 09:01

If its any comfort, the SNP have a solid record of promising things but not delivering.

IwantToRetire · 17/04/2026 17:33

I posted more that it is just yet more evidence that any idea that the TRAs will accept that the situation is now settled because the UK's supreme court has ruled on it, is just not the case.

And seeing it spelt out in the article is a reminder that many think this is what Labour will do to the UK EA, and then the SNP wont have to bother.

And sadly I think Labour will get it through.

Although if Starmer goes on getting shown up to be a complete empty space (they lied to me, not my fault), Labour will become more and more of a lame duck.

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GenieGenealogy · 17/04/2026 17:57

They are fond of this sort of shite, making grand announcements which will then be quietly shelved when it transpires they can't, or are prevented by UK legislation. Which of course they love as they can start their tedious stuff about Westmonster and fiscal levers and how things would be amazing in an independent Scotland.

See also: gimmicky "food caps". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2r19v82z8o

ArabellaScott · 17/04/2026 18:09

Aye. Favourite tack. Create Large Bill decreeing that gravity must be STOPPED. Whip all MSPs on it. Grimly ignore every physicist, engineer, and schoolchild that points out the flaws. Call them bigots and underdeveloped. Wait for WM to scrap it and then howl with wounded outrage at the indignity of being disallowed from developing the power of flight.

Six months later, repeat.

logiccalls · 17/04/2026 18:37

Men must have what men want. In any country, they will take by use of force, individually. Or they will take by use of religion and law, collectively. .

AngleofRepose · 17/04/2026 18:39

ArabellaScott · 17/04/2026 18:09

Aye. Favourite tack. Create Large Bill decreeing that gravity must be STOPPED. Whip all MSPs on it. Grimly ignore every physicist, engineer, and schoolchild that points out the flaws. Call them bigots and underdeveloped. Wait for WM to scrap it and then howl with wounded outrage at the indignity of being disallowed from developing the power of flight.

Six months later, repeat.

As do Labour in Wales, soon to possibly be Plaid. And we have to do the Bill (or "great idea") in Welsh as well, creating twice the work, costing twice the money, and, luckily, twice the outrage with Westminster when it all falls to pieces. It's a fun political game we play here, to entertain ourselves since Labour have been pulling the strings for an entire generation already and they have nothing else to do.

And rinse and repeat.

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