When are we going to see a reckoning for the girls locked up for being victims of rape gangs?

[BettyBooper]

Just as the title says. When are politicians, local authorities and social services going to admit to locking up girls rather than going after the perpetrators of these crimes? For years.

For anyone who thinks I'm talking bollocks, local authorities who have a secure children's home earn significant amounts of money by (I have seen) cherry picking girls 'at risk of sexual exploitation ' to be locked up indefinitely by charging LAs a fortune and no-one does anything to go after the source problem.

This has been going on for years and years.

It's a national disgrace that needs discussion at the very least.

Girls should not be locked up for being victims of rape.

@BettyBooper what do you mean by "locking up indefinitely" as nobody can just be locked up indefinitely without a crt order whether that's children or adults, criminal or mental health related

I would like to see all those who covered it up, or ignore it locked up. IMO they’re just as much to blame.

It still goes on now horrendously. My DDs mil runs a children’s home in the northwest and she’s forever on the phone to the police because these creatures are turning up trying to groom the girls.

I would like to see the lot shot.

However, a girl who has been groomed for years to become a thing to be used and exploited will very often abscond from care and return to the people abusing her if she isn't kept in secure accommodation. She needs extremely deep and sensitive psychological help to undo the damage of the grooming and that's a long slow process.

It is vital that all decisions prioritise the wellbeing of each child as an individual. sometimes it will be in a child's best interests to be kept in secure accommodation. The processesfod determining whether that is necessary should be swift and careful and should be fully funded.

I mean court dates that go on and on. Look up section 25 orders. It's not like having a sentence. They can be (and are) repeatedly applied.

I have seen children locked up for over 2 years from as young as 12 having not committed a crime and being victims of sexual offences.

Yes I would agree but I no longer believe that there has been any realistic intention to go after the perps. It a 'give up' policy. There is no prioritisation of girls in this whatsoever.

Tell me you swallowed the Ofsted rule book without telling me.

Yes, I know girls do this. I also know police aren't doing their job. It is not the job of girls to sort out this shit.

Maggie Oliver explained some of the additional victimisation of the victims in a short youtube video titled How a grooming-gang victim was framed as a criminal:

This is new to me but I can see how it can happen, however surely if the child has had sex she has been raped and so they have a watertight conviction?

Clearly it is the members of the rape gangs that need locked up, and imo till they are no longer a risk to society.

What people don't get, I think, is an understanding of the dynamics of group sex offences. It is very different to individual sex offences.

For an entire community to engage in and normalise sexual offending is deeply concerning. For our government to sweep it under the carpet is just horrendous.

We simply need to vote for politicians that will lock up the rapists, pardon and compensate the victims, and hold the individuals in our institutions responsible for their obstruction to account.

Listen to this podcast to get an insight on what’s been happening from the incredibly brave voice of a survivor.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/553ioTmRvtKZrexBlcEzZE?si=-st8y1sFQCaTFBcS5BQwhA

I do not like what our country has become, this is urgent.

Have a look at Rupert Lowe. He has set up Restore Britain. Its a political party and part of the reason he has set it up is because of the grooming gangs being covered up. The mainstream media are largely blacking out his party but he has 1.1 million followers on Facebook alone. The stories of these young girls he has released with there consent is heartbreaking.

The mainstream media are largely blacking out his party but he has 1.1 million followers on Facebook alone.

About a million of those followers are right wing Christians in the US. He has surrounded himself with white supremacists & is holding a fake inquiry.

What nonsense, I am a supporter of Rupert and don't live in the US (not last time I checked am I a white supremacist (whatever that is)). Tell me without telling me you get all your info from the Guardian.

Absolute nonsense most of them are just skint, fed up British people who want a government that prioritises British people and British values. Throwing around words like ring wing only annoys the average person further. Its not right wing to want a country that is safe, does not allow mass uncontrolled migration but welcomes controlled and hard working migrants that integrate and the UK being a country where people are rewarded for hard work and financially better off for it.

Rupert shouldn't have had to crow fund to get the funds for an inquiry into the grooming gangs. The goverment should have done it immediately. Labour have just announced today it will happen. How many years has it taken? And how much pressure? How many girls suffered further because of that delay?

The inquiry is just a political stunt.

Lowe is surrounding himself with people like his policy chief Harrison Pitt who flew to Austria to pose for photos with neo-Nazi activist Martin Sellner who is permanently banned from entering the UK.

The inquiry is just a political stunt.

Lowe is embracing white nationalists like his campaigns director Charlie Downes who says England deserved the grooming gangs as punishment for turning away from God. Lowe gives no interviews. Charlie Downes is the voice of Restore.

Lowe gives lots of interviews. I have watched him in them.

The inquiry maybe a politician stunt in your view but its brought much needed attention to the horrors of what these girls were put through and how much it was covered up. These girls deserve to be heard and these rapists deserve to be in jail or if not British born deported.

Do you agree with Restore's campaigns director Charlie Downes that England deserved the grooming gangs as punishment for turning away from God?

A proper inquiry is being held not Lowe's stunt.

It's the failure of tory and labour to deal with this issue that has allowed the right wingers to gain traction.

It's extremely easy to section someone or similar, especially a minor. There are almost no actual safeguards, and these mechanisms are copiously misused by individuals and organisations with a financial interest in detaining someone, or by clinicians practising defensively.

Locking someone up for a crime requires due process. Sectioning/DoLSing teenage girls is very easy.

I also wouldn't trust a for-profit institution to be ensuring a safe environment. Institutions where vulnerable teenage girls are kept are like a candy store for groomers. Ask me how I learned this...

Can you link the video of him saying this please? There is a massive smear campaign against Rupert so unless I have actually aeen the video I wouldn't necessarily believe its been said.

An inquiry is far more than any of the incompetent governments have done. They just covered it up instead which begs the question why.

I agree with this statement. We are now facing a situation were the average person ir frustrated because things are in such a mess across the country.

Just a reminder that fake videos are now perfected. Therefore, seeing a video of something apparently 'as it happened', is not unarguable evidence it ever did happen. There was a widely reported and reproduced video showing the Pope, dressed up in a white quilted puffer jacket. It looked believable. He never wore any such garment.