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Haynes v Blackball Pool Federation is back on - this time at the High Court

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Another2Cats · 27/03/2026 12:28

Again, I apologise for this being very long. TL;DR this looks to be the first case at the High Court which will consider the exclusion of trans-identifying men post FWS.

So, for some background, there was a case last year, just after FWS, concerning a trans-identifying man who had been banned from a women's pool competition organised by the English Blackball Pool Federation.

Back at the end of 2023, the Pool Federation changed their rules so that only women could play in women's competitions.

The trans-identifying man, Haynes, then brought a claim of direct discrimination on the ground of gender reassignment against the federation.

The trial took place during 2025 before the judgment in FWS was handed down. The court heard from several witnesses about whether pool was a gender-affected activity (Section 195(3) Equality Act) including Dr Emma Hilton - who is the interim chair of Sex Matters.

However, the FWS judgment came out before the County Court judge had made his judgment on the case and so the pool federation said that each side should make detailed written submissions about the effect of FWS on this case.

The judge agreed and the submissions for the pool federation were written by Sarah Crowther KC of Outer Temple Chambers and those for the trans-identifying man were written by Jane Russell KC. Some may recognise her name from the Sandie Peggie case (and other cases).

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The judge decided that FWS was sufficient to decide the case in favour of the pool federation but, since he had heard detailed argument, he also set out his conclusions with regard to the sport exception (Section 195) and also about the provision of separate services (Schedule 3 para 28)

The court concluded that pool is a ‘gender-affected activity’ and that excluding those born as male from the female category is necessary to secure fair competition. The court also concluded that this was a proportionate means of achieving a legitimate aim.

There is a link to the judgment here:

https://jrlevins.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/K01CT207-judgment-1-8-25-handed-down.pdf

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Haynes has now been granted permission to appeal and has published the grounds of appeal on Haynes Instagram account. I've attached the images here. Haynes tried to get the case "leapfrogged" directly to the Court of Appeal but this was refused.

A brief summary of the grounds, which the judge who considered the application said were all arguable are as follows (personally, I don't they stand up at all, but this is the case he is putting forward):

1 There was no evidence that trans-identifying men had any competitive advantage over women. The judge failed to consider the "mental processes" of the federation and that they were significantly influenced in their decision to exclude trans-identifying men as they were in some way unfairly discriminatory.

2 In considering direct discrimination, the court applied the wrong comparator. Following Croft [Croft v Royal Mail [2003] EWCA Civ 1045] Haynes claims that the correct comparator in this case should be a woman rather than a man.

3 FWS, when applied to the facts of this case, does not comply with Article 8 and Article 14 of the ECHR and, in a claim by an individual, the ECHR applies, whereas it did not for the organisations claiming in FWS.

4 The Court failed to apply S195 Equality Act [the sport exemption] in a ECHR compliant manner. The pool federation did not show that it was necessary to exclude trans-identifying men for the reasons of safety or fair competition. Cue sports are precision sports thus not affected by power/sex. No explanation was given for changing from a testosterone testing system or handicap system.

5 Something about the court wrongly saying that another, professional, pool organisation would have refused Haynes permission to play in this federation's competitions

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Frankly, I don't think any of those will really hold up. But it will be interesting to see what happens when it does get to court as this will be a High Court judgment rather than just a County Court judgment.

Haynes v Blackball Pool Federation is back on - this time at the High Court
Haynes v Blackball Pool Federation is back on - this time at the High Court
Haynes v Blackball Pool Federation is back on - this time at the High Court
Haynes v Blackball Pool Federation is back on - this time at the High Court
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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 17/04/2026 13:09

He’s posted on Reddit about the case. https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/s/gaWmrg77Ts

BellaBlackberry83 · 17/04/2026 13:11

It appears he was given permission by Richie J.

I don't want to out myself too much, but it is far to say that Richie J has made a number of controversial decisions since appointment, as is known to be something of a loose cannon by the bar and bench.

The fact he was given permission by him is pretty meaningless as to the merits of the case.

moto748e · 17/04/2026 13:20

Sex is not immutable because American green frogs? I see...

MyAmpleSheep · 17/04/2026 13:27

moto748e · 17/04/2026 13:20

Sex is not immutable because American green frogs? I see...

I really want to ask that poster if they think they're a frog. Please let me.

MyAmpleSheep · 17/04/2026 13:30

BellaBlackberry83 · 17/04/2026 13:11

It appears he was given permission by Richie J.

I don't want to out myself too much, but it is far to say that Richie J has made a number of controversial decisions since appointment, as is known to be something of a loose cannon by the bar and bench.

The fact he was given permission by him is pretty meaningless as to the merits of the case.

Is controversial drawn from the same legal lexicon as novel, ingenious and imaginitive?

WiseWomanOfPutney · 17/04/2026 13:47

The judge failed to consider the "mental processes" of the federation and that they were significantly influenced in their decision to exclude trans-identifying men as they were in some way unfairly discriminatory.

Presumably it will be difficult to prove discrimination against the PC of GR if the federation includes trans-identified females (which I imagine they do).

Kinsters · 17/04/2026 14:10

I don't see how anyone could rule that TIMs don't have an unfair advantage when two TIMs were competing in the final of a women's pool tournament. I mean what are the chances? We're told they only make up a tiny tiny proportion of the population so isn't it strange that two TIMs just happened to float to the top in a women's pool tournament.

murasaki · 17/04/2026 14:44

He's posting his arguments on reddit today. Obviously he's being fawned over.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 17/04/2026 14:53

"Ms Haynes said: “It’s tough to put into words how unfair this whole situation is."

Totally oblivious to the irony of his words, he's a cheater and a liar and yet he's claiming he's the victim of 'unfairness'.

WallaceinAnderland · 17/04/2026 16:21

Ground 1: [J16-17]. The Court erred in its approach to section 13 of the EA in that it failed to consider the mental processes of the Defendants. The Judge ought to have analysed the evidence on whether HH having a protected characteristic – GR, significantly influenced the prohibition decision. Had the Judge done so the answer was GR did significantly influence the decision. There was no evidence that GR women had any competitive advantage over non GR women.

What what are non GR women? Are they female women or TIM who haven't had SRS?

Llamasarellovely · 17/04/2026 16:37

BellaBlackberry83 · 17/04/2026 13:11

It appears he was given permission by Richie J.

I don't want to out myself too much, but it is far to say that Richie J has made a number of controversial decisions since appointment, as is known to be something of a loose cannon by the bar and bench.

The fact he was given permission by him is pretty meaningless as to the merits of the case.

I actually had to double check I hadn't posted this 😁I think it is fair to say that expressing the view AR is regarded as a loose cannon does not out oneself (except as a member of the legal profession perhaps).

BellaBlackberry83 · 17/04/2026 16:44

Llamasarellovely · 17/04/2026 16:37

I actually had to double check I hadn't posted this 😁I think it is fair to say that expressing the view AR is regarded as a loose cannon does not out oneself (except as a member of the legal profession perhaps).

:D quite. I was a little worried, but then...well, its not an unpopular view, is it?

BellaBlackberry83 · 17/04/2026 16:47

WallaceinAnderland · 17/04/2026 16:21

Ground 1: [J16-17]. The Court erred in its approach to section 13 of the EA in that it failed to consider the mental processes of the Defendants. The Judge ought to have analysed the evidence on whether HH having a protected characteristic – GR, significantly influenced the prohibition decision. Had the Judge done so the answer was GR did significantly influence the decision. There was no evidence that GR women had any competitive advantage over non GR women.

What what are non GR women? Are they female women or TIM who haven't had SRS?

The other difficulty with this is that the fact he had the PC of GR had no bearing at all on the decision. The fact that he is a male, did.

Kinsters · 18/04/2026 03:25

WallaceinAnderland · 17/04/2026 16:21

Ground 1: [J16-17]. The Court erred in its approach to section 13 of the EA in that it failed to consider the mental processes of the Defendants. The Judge ought to have analysed the evidence on whether HH having a protected characteristic – GR, significantly influenced the prohibition decision. Had the Judge done so the answer was GR did significantly influence the decision. There was no evidence that GR women had any competitive advantage over non GR women.

What what are non GR women? Are they female women or TIM who haven't had SRS?

I think here they're meaning just plain old women. I think it comes down to whether SH's protected characteristics of "sex" is deemed to have changed with his "transition". When going through the gender reassignment process does one simply acquire the protected characteristic of gender reassignment or does one also change ones protected characteristic of sex. Per FWS I think the answer is unequivocally the former, not least because the protected characteristic of sex cannot change as it throws up a whole bunch of inconsistencie.

From that it follows that SH needs to be compared to an individual who shares all his protected characteristics other than gender reassignment ie a man who is not undertaking the process of gender reassignment. Wonder how many of them are competing in the women's pool tournament.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/04/2026 10:29

BellaBlackberry83 · 17/04/2026 13:11

It appears he was given permission by Richie J.

I don't want to out myself too much, but it is far to say that Richie J has made a number of controversial decisions since appointment, as is known to be something of a loose cannon by the bar and bench.

The fact he was given permission by him is pretty meaningless as to the merits of the case.

Presumably they all feel the same way about the Hampstead Ponds case, which has also been given permission to proceed by a different judge after failing in an earlier hearing.

MyAmpleSheep · 18/04/2026 11:38

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/04/2026 10:29

Presumably they all feel the same way about the Hampstead Ponds case, which has also been given permission to proceed by a different judge after failing in an earlier hearing.

Can I just add that the County Court is a very low level tribunal and while permission to appeal to the High Court is significant for the parties it’s not as noteworthy as permission to proceed to a JR by the Court of Appeal overriding the decision of a High Court Judge.

BellaBlackberry83 · 19/04/2026 10:18

MyAmpleSheep · 18/04/2026 11:38

Can I just add that the County Court is a very low level tribunal and while permission to appeal to the High Court is significant for the parties it’s not as noteworthy as permission to proceed to a JR by the Court of Appeal overriding the decision of a High Court Judge.

I agree with this. Neither is ultimately determinative, but permission to JR is a far rarer beast.

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