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are victims of rape so casually discarded rather than supported

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happydappy2 · 26/03/2026 20:58

https://x.com/realMaalouf/status/2037238188079825060?s=20

Please tell me this isn't true-a girl in care, was brutally gang raped as a minor, tried to commit suicide & was paralysed, today unalived aged 25 by the Drs meant to care for her. I just don't understand how this can be happening-is it fake news?

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Noelia’s euthanasia for depression, at just 25 years old, took place in her room at Sant Camil Hospital at 6 p.m. in Barcelona. Her final wishes were to be elegantly dressed with light makeup. She also requested to be alone when she died. Doctors inj...

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Joolsin · 26/03/2026 21:21

If I was her, I would want to do exactly the same and would count myself fortunate to live in a country where it was possible to facilitate euthanasia. She had ultimate control over her own life and a dignified death.

GoldenCupsatHarvestTime · 26/03/2026 21:25

I don’t think it’s right for you to make that statement when you don’t know what her family, healthcare team, psychiatric team etc may have done to try and support her. She chose euthanasia. You may disagree with it but it was her decision.

Octavia64 · 26/03/2026 21:29

To be fair there is more going on there than the headline suggests.

i totally support her decision.

her father sounds horrific.

Theappren · 26/03/2026 21:30

What are you finding so hard to understand?

The law allows for euthanasia where she lived, and the lady herself involved exercised her legal right to engage with provisions for euthanasia.

No one forced her, she wanted it and went through legal procedures to fight for what she wanted.

Doctors didn’t “discard” her, they carried out her direct orders?

The rape isn’t relevant in the way you are implying. You’re saying because she was raped, she’s not allowed to opt for euthanasia? You think the rape means, she needs less legal rights? Whereas, the rape is likely why she felt like she wanted to discontinue living, and frankly justifies why she fought so hard for euthanasia. She didn’t go through long drawn out legal battles for no reason.

usedtobeaylis · 26/03/2026 21:32

I have found the lack of analysis around the social systems that led to this point non fucking existent and that's ultimately been the heart of opposition to this in the UK the whole time. And still people fail to grasp that.

usedtobeaylis · 26/03/2026 21:32

GoldenCupsatHarvestTime · 26/03/2026 21:25

I don’t think it’s right for you to make that statement when you don’t know what her family, healthcare team, psychiatric team etc may have done to try and support her. She chose euthanasia. You may disagree with it but it was her decision.

She was raped in a facility for vulnerable youth. I don't think that's irrelevant to any part of her story.

GoldenCupsatHarvestTime · 26/03/2026 21:34

usedtobeaylis · 26/03/2026 21:32

She was raped in a facility for vulnerable youth. I don't think that's irrelevant to any part of her story.

No, and clearly she was let down by that facility. Why do you now think healthcare professionals should further strip her of her autonomy and choices by forcing her to live against her will?

YourSassyPanda · 26/03/2026 21:35

It appears that this young lady was already deeply troubled and living in supported accommodation due to her mental health and personality disorder when the attack happened so her ability to cope with the aftermath of it on top of everything else she was already dealing with must have been deeply compromised. Then add in physical disability caused by her previous suicide attempt. Her parents seem to have tried though the courts to stop her but ultimately she has fought hard for this result and won.

Theappren · 26/03/2026 21:39

usedtobeaylis · 26/03/2026 21:32

She was raped in a facility for vulnerable youth. I don't think that's irrelevant to any part of her story.

Do you not see the irony in this?

You’re saying because she didn’t consent to rape, she also cannot consent to euthanasia? So essentially she’s not allowed to have any agency when quite clearly, she was not happy and did not want to live? I can imagine her thought process being no one listens to her, and she’s not allowed to stop the pain, she had no choice in being raped and now people are saying she’s not allowed to legally end her life via lawful government means of euthanasia because she was raped? How does the cycle end then, her just committing suicide in a less safe manner?

RatWrangler · 27/03/2026 01:55

This enrages me. And the responses too. She was only 25. She had no way of knowing in her state of distress where she could be in 10 or 20 years time. People think this is compassionate but it isn't, it's just more expedient. It would have cost too much money and support and taken too long to get her to a place where she could have accepted life, it can take a long LONG time to recover from severe depression. The men who did that to her get to keep on living. They probably suffered barely any consequences at all. It actually reminds me a bit of the issue with trans affirming care. People think it's kind to give people whatever they insist will alleviate their distress, with no consideration for the long term. I'm so so angry.

Outwiththenorm · 27/03/2026 06:54

Theappren · 26/03/2026 21:39

Do you not see the irony in this?

You’re saying because she didn’t consent to rape, she also cannot consent to euthanasia? So essentially she’s not allowed to have any agency when quite clearly, she was not happy and did not want to live? I can imagine her thought process being no one listens to her, and she’s not allowed to stop the pain, she had no choice in being raped and now people are saying she’s not allowed to legally end her life via lawful government means of euthanasia because she was raped? How does the cycle end then, her just committing suicide in a less safe manner?

I imagine the poster was saying this showed the young woman hadn’t been appropriately support after the rape? 25 also seems so young to me. You can’t even go to prison for rape if under 25 in Scotland, right?

OldCrone · 27/03/2026 07:06

Octavia64 · 26/03/2026 21:29

To be fair there is more going on there than the headline suggests.

i totally support her decision.

her father sounds horrific.

Do you have a link with more detail than the BBC article?

What did her father do that was "horrific"?

Anxious2024 · 27/03/2026 09:03

This has made me so so sad.

KTheGrey · 27/03/2026 09:08

Joolsin · 26/03/2026 21:21

If I was her, I would want to do exactly the same and would count myself fortunate to live in a country where it was possible to facilitate euthanasia. She had ultimate control over her own life and a dignified death.

And then they harvested all her organs. Win win, right?

KTheGrey · 27/03/2026 09:10

Theappren · 26/03/2026 21:39

Do you not see the irony in this?

You’re saying because she didn’t consent to rape, she also cannot consent to euthanasia? So essentially she’s not allowed to have any agency when quite clearly, she was not happy and did not want to live? I can imagine her thought process being no one listens to her, and she’s not allowed to stop the pain, she had no choice in being raped and now people are saying she’s not allowed to legally end her life via lawful government means of euthanasia because she was raped? How does the cycle end then, her just committing suicide in a less safe manner?

It’s an interesting era we live in, where death is a human right unless you are a criminal. Then it is against your human rights.

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