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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Puberty Blocker Debate in UK Parliament just about to start.

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Shedmistress · 23/03/2026 16:27

E-petition debate relating to the clinical trial into puberty blockers - Monday 23 March 2026. - YouTube

Before you continue to YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/live/HHa3B2PiX60

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Shedmistress · 23/03/2026 16:52

It is so good to hear some sense to be honest, wonder when the activists will kick in.

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Shedmistress · 23/03/2026 16:53

Spoke too soon.

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GinaWhoLikesADrink · 23/03/2026 16:55

Same old BS from Carla Denyer 🙄

Don't know how anyone can listen to her without heckling!

Gagagardener · 23/03/2026 17:22

[Carla] Denyer: nominal determinism .

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 23/03/2026 18:03

Rosie Duffield with her Sex Matters and WRN badges, making sense as usual. 😁
The only ally I've heard so far playing the emotional blackmail card as usual. 🥱

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 23/03/2026 18:09

Sentiment, pity and social status signalling are terrible reasons to medically harm and sterilise children.

A lifetime of physical harm, side effects and medical dependency, and in the case of children quite possible permanent limiting of their brain development, independence and maturity, is equally an appalling suggestion as a permanent solution to temporary mental distress.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 23/03/2026 18:13

It was good to hear so many accents speaking against this trial, considering how captured Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are by this batshittery.
What happens next?

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 23/03/2026 18:16

I would hope someone also mentions that with the SEND White Paper (disclosed last week it's a done deal, consultation is just a pantomime with no impact) announcing that we cannot as a country afford for children to have EHCPs and their educational needs met, and everyone must learn to settle for a lot less with children regardless of their distress and impact -

how exactly this works in intentionally taking a healthy child and creating a highly expensive life time NHS patient, where if all goes perfectly their need for ongoing monitoring and tests will be on a par with a child who is diabetic or has another serious chronic illness?

Why can we afford to set out to harm healthy children in the vague promise that there will be the NHS to pick up the bill when their happy state of ill health, risk and medical need has been created? Why do these children's distress equal a blank cheque of services and others don't, or is that blank cheque actually going to turn out to leave those parents and children as abandoned and struggling as for example parents of Autistic children?

And with WW3 basically now in progress and the oil lines under threat, what happens to these kids and their medications if the oil and petrol runs out and supply lines are interrupted possibly for long periods? How sensible is it to start this under these circumstances anyway?

ThisKhakiCrow · 23/03/2026 18:44

@OpheliaWitchoftheWoods Excellent post.

ArabellaScott · 23/03/2026 18:59

We all know Iran is very affirming.

Shortshriftandlethal · 23/03/2026 19:40

How refreshing and encouraging to hear so many clearly articulated arguments against this experiment. Those in favour most definitely looked on the back foot.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 23/03/2026 20:18

So many excellent speeches. Interesting that those in favour of experimenting on children all spout the old tropes - "erasing trans people, being a trans ally, talking about adults not children".
And of course telling lies about the impact of pbs (Denyer)

MrsOvertonsWindow · 23/03/2026 20:22

A very powerful speech from Rebecca Smith focusing on children in care / looked after children. The most vulnerable group, isolated from their families yet relentlessly targeted by transactivists from the beginning of all this..

DameMaud · 23/03/2026 21:53

MrsOvertonsWindow · 23/03/2026 20:22

A very powerful speech from Rebecca Smith focusing on children in care / looked after children. The most vulnerable group, isolated from their families yet relentlessly targeted by transactivists from the beginning of all this..

Agreed Mrs O.

Was so pleased to see this very important point being made- and the question of who consents for them.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 23/03/2026 23:16

DameMaud · 23/03/2026 21:53

Agreed Mrs O.

Was so pleased to see this very important point being made- and the question of who consents for them.

Yes. She also spoke about young lesbians and how they were being groomed into believing they must be trans.

The quality of the debate was remarkably good and it was refreshing to hear so many MPs centring children's safety and wellbeing and calling out those seeking to abuse their vulnerability. Given how powerful the trans lobby has been in parliament, it was a a relief to hear so many MPs finally speaking out.

Shortshriftandlethal · 24/03/2026 07:33

MrsOvertonsWindow · 23/03/2026 20:18

So many excellent speeches. Interesting that those in favour of experimenting on children all spout the old tropes - "erasing trans people, being a trans ally, talking about adults not children".
And of course telling lies about the impact of pbs (Denyer)

Yes, when these people are held to account in a gathering of their peers they tend to look very sheepish, indeed...as if they become aware of the hollowness of their cliches and mantras. They are caught in a bind...because they cannot disagree that causing harms to a child is not an acceptable aim.....whilst their dogmatic creed refers to it 'healthcare'.A couple took shelter in the fact that Cass had recommeded it go ahead.

Shortshriftandlethal · 24/03/2026 07:34

MrsOvertonsWindow · 23/03/2026 20:22

A very powerful speech from Rebecca Smith focusing on children in care / looked after children. The most vulnerable group, isolated from their families yet relentlessly targeted by transactivists from the beginning of all this..

Yes, a shocking statistic.......0.6% of children, nationally, are 'looked after', but 5% of children presenting themselves to gender clinics are 'looked after'.

Shortshriftandlethal · 24/03/2026 07:36

What I didn't see was any reference to which political parties all of the contributors belonged to? Apart from Toni Antoniazi? were there any Labour members? ( Rosie Duffield now an Independent)

fromorbit · 24/03/2026 07:50

Very important debate. Check what Minister Karin Smyth says at the end to get what the government is actually doing. They are hoping to press ahead with the trial.

Transcript
https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2026-03-23/debates/D6758513-7EB3-45DF-B0D9-E3C3BE3A3A97/PubertyBlockersClinicalTrial

James started the petition and has also organised the potential court case to stop the medical experiment. He is not giving up.

James Esses

I have just left Parliament after the puberty blockers debate.

Firstly, thank you to each and every one of you who signed my petition and made this debate possible.

There were some incredibly impassioned speeches against the trial and I’d be lying if I said I didn’t feel emotional at times.

The most important statement actually came from an MP who supports the trial, when she said, without a hint of irony:

“We must not sacrifice vulnerable children on the alter of ideology.”

I couldn’t agree more. That is why we should not allow a single child to ingest this poison.

Rest assured, the debate was just one part of a much bigger plan. Our Judicial Review continues in haste.

If this government does not cancel the trial voluntarily, we will legally compel them to cancel it.

fromorbit · 24/03/2026 08:04

Shortshriftandlethal · 24/03/2026 07:36

What I didn't see was any reference to which political parties all of the contributors belonged to? Apart from Toni Antoniazi? were there any Labour members? ( Rosie Duffield now an Independent)

The transcript I posted is best way seeing who spoke

Transcript
https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2026-03-23/debates/D6758513-7EB3-45DF-B0D9-E3C3BE3A3A97/PubertyBlockersClinicalTrial

Labour

AGAINST the trial

Jonathan Hinder
David Smith
Tonia Antoniazzi

For the trial

Alex Sobel
Josh Newbury
Emily Darlington
Dr Scott Arthur
Rachel Taylor

Minister Karin Smyth

Note many of of the most fanatical TAs in Labour did not turn up.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 24/03/2026 08:52

Interesting that they did not feel inclined to turn up and publicly defend it.

I wonder whether what that lack of inclination is based on?

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 24/03/2026 08:57

Caroline Johnson's comments were particularly good. It is such a relief to see people speaking in the HoC that now really get the issues.

DisappearingGirl · 24/03/2026 09:03

I've got as far as Rosie Duffield at 22 minutes who spoke brilliantly, and the chap after her at 24 minutes who is pointing out that most of the kids on PBs are expected to go on to cross sex hormones, and this treatment is expected to make them infertile - ie this trial and treatment pathway expects to make medically healthy children infertile.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 24/03/2026 09:10

Smith's comments at the end are dispiriting although absolutely typical of this incarnation of Labour: after all the insightful and in depth pointing out of the issues, the flaws, the ethics - she ignores it all and says merely that Labour identify as being ethical and right. So there.

It doesn't pass.

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