Portugal Bans Gender Transitions for Minors

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This came up on a news feed, but cant find anything about it other than in a conservative paper which says the campaign was about the nuclear family and parental rights????

But assume there were other campaigners.

Link to article https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news-corner/portugal-bans-gender-transitions-for-minors/

Should have added that in searching for other news reports about this, all that comes up is commentary from LGBTQI etc groups saying how terrible this is.

I wonder if there is a gender critical movement in Portugual.

The Portuguese also seem to be rolling back on self ID.

uk.news.yahoo.com/portugal-advances-bills-roll-back-164658767.html

So this is the ILGA-Europe map: Rainbow Map

I read The European Conservative web site occasionally, it helps me get a balanced view of things, they seem like a reliable source of information, if some what biased in favour of the right mindset.

That's a piece of good news, I have a feeling I wouldn't support many of the Chega parties policy's, but on this I do. It's hard to argue with this

"...hail the move as a necessary restoration of parental authority and a safeguard against the “de-medicalization” of complex psychological issues."

I'm glad they were able to get it through.

Welcome back to reality Portugal. 🥳

Thanks for the link, I see the headline is "...to roll back trans rights" so you can tell which direction this is coming from. Brick by brick it's all coming down. 😁

Interesting and welcome development. So that is Portugal and the UK aligned on puberty blockers and hormone treatment for under 18s. And Portugal rolling back self ID (established 2018) also. I suppose this will be characterised as the “rise of the right” across Europe 🙄 as opposed to the return of common sense (on this issue anyway)

A radical ideological experiment.
Exactly!

Fascinating map - also this quote:

“MOVES IN THE UK, HUNGARY, GEORGIA AND BEYOND SIGNAL NOT JUST ISOLATED REGRESSIONS, BUT A COORDINATED GLOBAL BACKLASH AIMED AT ERASING LGBTI RIGHTS, CYNICALLY FRAMED AS THE DEFENCE OF TRADITION OR PUBLIC STABILITY, BUT IN REALITY DESIGNED TO ENTRENCH DISCRIMINATION AND SUPPRESS DISSENT.”

• Katrin Hugendubel, Advocacy Director, ILGA-Europe

No mention of the idea that women and children have rights. Or that the “T” rights claimed were never theirs to start with so how can it be “erasing” to draw boundaries and say no?

BACKLASH AIMED AT ERASING LGBTI RIGHTS

With the forced teaming, my worry was always that the LGB might end up sharing negative repercussions. So, does the ‘erasing’ rights mean just the T and not the LGB? Or are the latter somehow harmed? If this is just in relation to transitioning, then this claim is incorrect.

If the changes are against children transitioning, that does not have to do with rights. The right to self ID was always problematic by opening the doors to men without bad intentions as well as to men with entirely bad intentions.

Ultimately, the quote, if accurate, would be:

NOT JUST ISOLATED REGRESSIONS, BUT A COORDINATED GLOBAL MOVEMENT AIMED AT RESTORING PARENTAL GUARDIANSHIP AND REBALANCING WOMEN’S RIGHTS AGAINST TRANS IDENTIFYING MEN WHO WANT TO ENTER SINGLE FEMALE SEX SPACES.

But somehow I can’t see that Katrin would keep their job if they spoke the truth.

"No mention of the idea that women and children have rights. Or that the “T” rights claimed were never theirs to start with so how can it be “erasing” to draw boundaries and say no?"
It's interesting to note that safeguarding children and recognising the harm that "gender affirming care" does to the young is always reframed as erasing adult trans rights.
Surely by now everyone can see their relentless focus on children? It's both sinister and dangerous and it's only got this far because of the relentless intimidation and bullying of those speaking up.
It's seen in real life on here with a small group of men repeatedly derailing and drowning threads with their self absorbed witterings.

All of this ^
But especially this:
It's interesting to note that safeguarding children and recognising the harm that "gender affirming care" does to the young is always reframed as erasing adult trans rights.

Once you see it you can't unsee it.

The Rainbow Map ranks 49 European countries on their respective legal and policy practices for LGBTI people, from 0-100%

I like that they can come up with their own arbitrary method for rating 'legal and policy practices' and then feel confident enough to quote their ratings to the nearest 1/100 of a percent

It all smells a bit like the Stonewall partner's scheme

I expect this may have helped things along - an adult not a child but I think it may have opened eyes

reduxx.info/prison-guards-in-portugal-force-transfer-of-violent-transgender-inmate-from-womens-prison-after-threatening-to-strike/

Wow - so in female prisons over many years (most recently a unit for mothers and babies - WTAF?!) and different sentences but only "reported" as a problem when he set a fire that injured 5 staff. Why do we have to wait for evidence of problems from these violent men? Horrendous

Isn't Portugal one of the countries held up as a flagship for the brave and stunning rapists in women's jails policies?

He sounds like a nasty piece of work.

Interesting that it was the union that was putting pressure to protect female staff. I wonder what would happen in the UK. Do we know if the likes of Karen White were dumb enough to bother prison staff while in the women's prison? Or were they careful to target only the female inmates?

I dont know if this is India wide or just state wide, but attempt to stop self identity and replace with certification via a medical board is being discussed. And some people are upset.

“Gender identity must be based on self-identification, not medical examinations,” they said. LGBTQ+ rights groups, including Sahodaran and the Queer Bandhu Parents Association, were among those in attendance.

Introduced earlier this month (13 March), the Union Minister for Social Justice and Empowerment, Dr Virendra Kumar, argued that Section 4(2) of the 2019 Act, which enshrined the right to self-identify as a transgender person, was too “vague”.

The amendment proposes medical certification, replacing the administrative process for identity cards with a Medical Board.

https://www.attitude.co.uk/news/protestors-against-indias-transgender-protection-rights-bill-517483/

I can't say I know a lot about the situation in India but "Kumar also suggested stricter punishments for kidnapping an adult to force a transgender identity,..."
sounds alarming, what's that all about I wonder?

It looks like there were a couple of cases reported in the Indian press in 2024. One was a child who was operated on and later contested this. The other was a man who claims he was deceived by a “boyfriend” and the hospital. Ive not posted links as all I can see is tabloid fodder… no indication that the allegations have substance

Thanks, my search didn't come up with anything specific either, sounds alarmist, perhaps Kumer was just seeking to reassure the 'trans' community in India his amendment wasn't to 'wipe' them out or something.

AI says:

" Cases of people in India being kidnapped, deceived, or coerced into undergoing forced transgender surgery—often referred to as forced castration or forced gender reassignment surgery—have been reported, primarily involving incidents in northern India where victims are pressured into the hijra (transgender/eunuch) community. These cases are often characterized by trafficking, coercion, or collusion between criminals and medical professionals."

If this is true a rather different situation as the hijra community is not (although some in the west try to make out it is) the same as contemporary trans politics.