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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The sheer gall!

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Niminy · 15/03/2026 15:58

Came across this by accident on a well-known TIM’s public Facebook page.

”we must be victims! Everyone is horrid to us!’

The absolute gall of it. That is all.

The sheer gall!
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MrsOvertonsWindow · 16/03/2026 11:53

SionnachRuadh · 16/03/2026 11:35

Deirdre McCloskey in economics, I suppose, and... that's about it. It's hard to think of anyone else who's prominent in a field and just happens to be trans, and it's not front and centre all the time.

I have kind of a love/hate relationship with Gore Vidal, but I always liked how he resisted being pigeonholed as a "gay novelist", because he felt that made him seem like a writer with one subject. Or the comic book writer Christopher Priest, who at one point took a break because he was fed up with just being given black characters to write, as if a black writer couldn't have perfectly good ideas for Spider-Man. (Marvel in particular have a habit of hiring black writers and confining them to the ghetto of writing Black Panther, a character created by two Jewish men in the 1960s.)

Deirdre McCloskey used to post under articles in the Times some years ago when they were leading the media in breaking through the #nodebate demands. A mix of respectful debate with some exasperation that women were challenging any of this.

Niminy · 16/03/2026 12:44

dsdf · 16/03/2026 10:19

If this is who I think it is, he is very much like this in person.

I first came across him a while ago now, at a university seminar the topic of which I was interested in at the time. I didn't know who he was, this strange bloke preening himself and wearing a flouncy skirt (one of my pre-school granddaughters had a similar skirt and wore it to parties, I recall). He was all "Me, me, me! Look at me! Listen to me!" and expected everyone to be familiar with his work - which very few if any attendees were, as far as I could tell.

Overall, I remember feeling this was a sad, disturbed sort of man. Very unlikeable but no real harm as he appeared just weird. Later his notoriety as a militant trans-identified professor was explained to me. I do feel sorry for his students and colleagues.

Bingo

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testmatchspecial · 16/03/2026 13:00

I think Jan Morris wasn’t all about trans.

These men have no idea how much we’d really rather not be thinking about them at all.

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 16/03/2026 14:21

Didn’t Morris get the zeal of the recently converted and a ‘woman’ was the be all and end all? it think I remember reading an interview with one of the sons

testmatchspecial · 16/03/2026 16:02

Oh that’s interesting. He always seemed to be referenced when people, often men, were bemoaning modern trans activism, as an example of a transsexual who continued with his life.

SqueakyDinosaur · 16/03/2026 16:21

If it's Sophie Grace Chappell, don't forget that he stated publicly that a slight uptick in the number of women murdered and assaulted was a price worth paying for trans inclusion in women's spaces.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 16/03/2026 16:45

testmatchspecial · 16/03/2026 16:02

Oh that’s interesting. He always seemed to be referenced when people, often men, were bemoaning modern trans activism, as an example of a transsexual who continued with his life.

Jan Morris did just continue with his life. Evidently he treated his family badly. He had his wife waiting on him hand & foot. He was entirely selfish like all these middle age men who claim they are "trans". His daughter Suki Morys talks about her father in this article in the Times headlined

Jan Morris was a trans pioneer — and a cruel parent

https://archive.ph/bupdZ

testmatchspecial · 16/03/2026 17:03

PrettyDamnCosmic · 16/03/2026 16:45

Jan Morris did just continue with his life. Evidently he treated his family badly. He had his wife waiting on him hand & foot. He was entirely selfish like all these middle age men who claim they are "trans". His daughter Suki Morys talks about her father in this article in the Times headlined

Jan Morris was a trans pioneer — and a cruel parent

https://archive.ph/bupdZ

Oh yes I know he was awful. No different to all the other men, he just maybe didn’t make trans his raison d’etre.

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 16/03/2026 21:44

I suppose he’s lived his life and had adventure , and then wanted to be the centre of attention in a different way. Was there much travel writing after the transition, or just fetishised womanhood?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/03/2026 01:45

“Trans philosophers” 🤣 like “trans women” then.

WittyLimeBiscuit · 17/03/2026 08:03

Ohfuckrucksack · 15/03/2026 16:08

Trans philosophers?

So people who have suddenly decided that they are really philosophers?

Are they going for Diogenes or Rousseau?

They're identifying as philosophers.

SqueakyDinosaur · 17/03/2026 10:41

@Ohfuckrucksack I don't think SGC would take kindly to living in a barrel. He might get his spinny skirts dirty or crumpled.

Helleofabore · 17/03/2026 11:15

SGC? Oh... this one?

On this particular issue of safety concerns raised when gender recognition acts are introduced, so a lot of this looks much more to me like anecdotes than data. It’s not like there’s a body of hard evidence that lots and lots of stuff is happening which is really bad. There’s the odd anecdote.
and
Suppose people were saying ‘Well you know if you make it easier for gay people to be themselves in society there’s going to be a crime wave or dreadful homosexual murders are going to happen, it’s going to be awful if we do that’, I think we’d rightly dismiss that as scaremongering and we’d say ‘No it doesn’t matter, it doesn’t matter’. It wouldn’t matter, actually, if there was a slight spike in those statistics because this isn’t about that kind of issue.

A Week in the War on Women: Monday 20th September - Sunday 26th September (substack.com)

There is a link to the radio interview on this substack. I remember listening to it myself and felt shocked. This was referring to deaths and harms of women and girls because he felt that the 'safety issues' should be dismissed.

I mean Chappell was an advisor to BPAC too!

A Week in the War on Women: Monday 20th September - Sunday 26th September

Monday 20th September - Women Don’t Matter

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/a-week-in-the-war-on-women-monday-73e

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