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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 02/03/2026 19:56

The article is clear that this is a boy who has been "socially-transitioned" at school as a girl since age 10-11.

I imagine this is happening all over the UK, not just boys being admitted to "all-girls schools" but sex-falsification both ways in mixed-sex schools.

The closing paragraphs are quite chilling,

"My daughter, unsurprisingly, is now completely indoctrinated into this ideology – she believes a man can be a woman simply by announcing he is, growing his hair, wearing make-up and acting in a vaguely “feminine” way.

The school has taught her to accept a boy into her single-sex spaces who says he is a girl, or a man who says he is a woman – no questions asked. Her boundaries about what is acceptable and what she is entitled to in terms of her privacy and dignity are completely skewed."

Helleofabore · 02/03/2026 20:10

This is concerning on quite a few levels. But the safeguarding issues are immediately clear.

deadpan · 03/03/2026 09:57

I wonder what the biology lessons are like. Presumably written on the back of a fag packet, because if they tell girls a bit is a girl how do they teach them accurate biology.

Helleofabore · 03/03/2026 10:23

I cannot get over that a school thought this was appropriate.

Talkinpeace · 03/03/2026 10:52

The child is male.
Was on roll at primary school in male persona.

Utter safeguarding fail that this has been allowed.
Illegal on many many aspects.

GingerBeverage · 03/03/2026 10:53

Including school sport teams, I assume. Gives quite an edge against the competition.

WittyLimeBiscuit · 03/03/2026 10:59

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 02/03/2026 19:56

The article is clear that this is a boy who has been "socially-transitioned" at school as a girl since age 10-11.

I imagine this is happening all over the UK, not just boys being admitted to "all-girls schools" but sex-falsification both ways in mixed-sex schools.

The closing paragraphs are quite chilling,

"My daughter, unsurprisingly, is now completely indoctrinated into this ideology – she believes a man can be a woman simply by announcing he is, growing his hair, wearing make-up and acting in a vaguely “feminine” way.

The school has taught her to accept a boy into her single-sex spaces who says he is a girl, or a man who says he is a woman – no questions asked. Her boundaries about what is acceptable and what she is entitled to in terms of her privacy and dignity are completely skewed."

Never underestimate the amount of indoctrination taking place in schools

Xenia · 03/03/2026 11:02

Not good. I suppose they need to change the school go "single gender" rather than call it "single sex" now (or not accept a biological male of course which is probably what most parents want).

TheUsualChaos · 03/03/2026 11:03

Interesting that despite other options that I assume were available, the parents choose an all girls school. They must have been incredibly confident that their child was completely fixed on their path and would not change their ideas during puberty. What if they wanted to detransition a couple of years in but felt they couldn't due to being in a single sex school?
It all feels quite controlling on the part of all adults involved in this.

SwirlyGates · 03/03/2026 11:23

Xenia · 03/03/2026 11:02

Not good. I suppose they need to change the school go "single gender" rather than call it "single sex" now (or not accept a biological male of course which is probably what most parents want).

This is not lawful though, according to the Supreme Court decision. "Single gender" is illegal - you have to call it mixed-sex and admit all males, or admit none.

monsterling · 03/03/2026 11:26

So it’s not an all girls school so they need to change their name too mixed or it’s false advertising.

Mmmnotsure · 03/03/2026 14:13

Inclusion - yay!

Pity about the girl who was excluded from a place at this over-subscribed school because a boy wanted it.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 03/03/2026 15:43

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 02/03/2026 19:56

The article is clear that this is a boy who has been "socially-transitioned" at school as a girl since age 10-11.

I imagine this is happening all over the UK, not just boys being admitted to "all-girls schools" but sex-falsification both ways in mixed-sex schools.

The closing paragraphs are quite chilling,

"My daughter, unsurprisingly, is now completely indoctrinated into this ideology – she believes a man can be a woman simply by announcing he is, growing his hair, wearing make-up and acting in a vaguely “feminine” way.

The school has taught her to accept a boy into her single-sex spaces who says he is a girl, or a man who says he is a woman – no questions asked. Her boundaries about what is acceptable and what she is entitled to in terms of her privacy and dignity are completely skewed."

Speaking from direct knowledge, this is happening all the time in Brighton.

All Sorts https://allsortsyouth.org.uk visit the classroom and ram home the 50 genders thing, they clearly state this is fact and anyone who objects needs reeducation.

It's in every lesson, not just PSHE, it is shoe horned in everywhere as a backdrop to discuss History, Geography, even maths

It happens from a very early age, we are talking below 10, getting them early - telling impressionable children, who trust their teachers - because every parent told them to - and now they have been conditioned to not notice, not object and not do anything about the Cuckoo who has been placed in their toilets, changing rooms and classrooms.

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Ernestina123 · 03/03/2026 16:32

Sounds as if the student was accepted by the school before the Supreme Court judgement on the basis of legal advice given to the school at the time.
Many organisations received legal advice saying that transgender status was a protected characteristic and that transgender individuals had to be treated as the gender with which they identified. The Supreme Court has said that interpretation was wrong but I have some sympathy for the school here.

On safeguarding, since the child has identified as female since primary school does that mean they will have started on puberty blockers before going through male puberty? If so, I guess that means some of the safeguarding worries associated with having an adolescent male in a female space would be diluted. They could quietly introduce a separate changing room and loo arrangement though.

The school is still in a difficult place because the D of E has still not come out with clear cut guidance on what schools should do. Should they now remove this child? Given that they admitted them knowing they were male, I imagine the legal process will be long and drawn out and the child will have left the school before a resolution is found. They also have to consider the well being of this child.

I recognise all the arguments around girls’ boundaries but I am not sure that

an individual and hopefully unusual case like this is the right place to focus. Much better to continue to press the D of E to issue clear guidance for all schools as quickly as possible and avoid any repetition of this scenario.

StillSpartacus · 03/03/2026 17:12

Ernestina123 · 03/03/2026 16:32

Sounds as if the student was accepted by the school before the Supreme Court judgement on the basis of legal advice given to the school at the time.
Many organisations received legal advice saying that transgender status was a protected characteristic and that transgender individuals had to be treated as the gender with which they identified. The Supreme Court has said that interpretation was wrong but I have some sympathy for the school here.

On safeguarding, since the child has identified as female since primary school does that mean they will have started on puberty blockers before going through male puberty? If so, I guess that means some of the safeguarding worries associated with having an adolescent male in a female space would be diluted. They could quietly introduce a separate changing room and loo arrangement though.

The school is still in a difficult place because the D of E has still not come out with clear cut guidance on what schools should do. Should they now remove this child? Given that they admitted them knowing they were male, I imagine the legal process will be long and drawn out and the child will have left the school before a resolution is found. They also have to consider the well being of this child.

I recognise all the arguments around girls’ boundaries but I am not sure that

an individual and hopefully unusual case like this is the right place to focus. Much better to continue to press the D of E to issue clear guidance for all schools as quickly as possible and avoid any repetition of this scenario.

On safeguarding, since the child has identified as female since primary school does that mean they will have started on puberty blockers before going through male puberty? If so, I guess that means some of the safeguarding worries associated with having an adolescent male in a female space would be diluted.

I disagree about safeguarding. Regardless of what treatment this boy has or hasn’t had and irrespective of how he dresses and presents, the school have permitted a male into female spaces. Toilets where girls are dealing with their first periods, changing rooms when adolescent girls are dealing with novel changes to their bodies, and potentially sleeping accommodation on residential trips. On top of that, the school has lied to and gaslit a whole cohort of girls into thinking that their privacy and dignity is worthless. They have taught them not to believe the evidence in front of their eyes and have forced them to be complicit in a lie. What is the point of educating young people to think critically and then binding them in a lie?

Teachers first duty is to safeguard their students and they have manifestly failed here.

MyAmpleSheep · 03/03/2026 18:18

Under the EA2010, single sex girls' schools are allowed to admit boys if their admission to the schools is "exceptional", and still be counted as a girls' (only) school. See Schedule 11 part 1.

I presume though that such a boy still has to be provided with boy's toilet and changing facilities; admission of a boy to a girls' school doesn't remove the need for appropriate safeguarding etc.

KnottyAuty · 03/03/2026 18:57

Forget the FWS/SC timings.

School secondary applications require submission of a birth certificate as part of the submission. A child cant get a GRC so somehow the LA accepted a male on to roll.

This means the LA broke their own admissions criteria. Thats illegal?!?

KnottyAuty · 03/03/2026 18:59

seems like an official complaint to the school, then if that is unsuccessful/exhausted then a complaint to the complaint to the Local Government Ombudsman? Whats the route to get this completely unlawful activity resolved?

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 03/03/2026 20:13

MyAmpleSheep · 03/03/2026 18:18

Under the EA2010, single sex girls' schools are allowed to admit boys if their admission to the schools is "exceptional", and still be counted as a girls' (only) school. See Schedule 11 part 1.

I presume though that such a boy still has to be provided with boy's toilet and changing facilities; admission of a boy to a girls' school doesn't remove the need for appropriate safeguarding etc.

Thank you for clarifying the law. Very useful to know that and then separate out the different issues, eg. regular boy admitted to the school in "exceptional" circumstances vs school complicit in misleading other children and their parents about the sex of a male pupil.

KnottyAuty · 03/03/2026 21:03

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 03/03/2026 20:13

Thank you for clarifying the law. Very useful to know that and then separate out the different issues, eg. regular boy admitted to the school in "exceptional" circumstances vs school complicit in misleading other children and their parents about the sex of a male pupil.

That part of the EA is interesting. Exceptional might refer to gender identity but how does the LA justify giving a place to a male when under 18s cant have a GRC?

By admitting a male they are disadvantaging a female and simultaneously discriminated against all males.

The LA cant pick and choose which admissions criteria they apply. If they are allowed all sorts of exceptions then the religious criteria have to be ignorable or distance or teacher’s children etc etc

KnottyAuty · 03/03/2026 21:16

The only way I can see this being possible is if there is a “Social & Medical” criteria by which the application could be made/approved by the LA?

ETA - OP does that criteria exist in your LA area?

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 03/03/2026 23:12

KnottyAuty · 03/03/2026 21:03

That part of the EA is interesting. Exceptional might refer to gender identity but how does the LA justify giving a place to a male when under 18s cant have a GRC?

By admitting a male they are disadvantaging a female and simultaneously discriminated against all males.

The LA cant pick and choose which admissions criteria they apply. If they are allowed all sorts of exceptions then the religious criteria have to be ignorable or distance or teacher’s children etc etc

how does the LA justify giving a place to a male when under 18s cant have a GRC?

If this is to do with provisions under the Equality Act 2010 (I don't know if that is the case, just assuming) then acquisition of a GRC is not relevant because the EA2010 Protected Characteristic of Gender Reassignment includes school children.

EA2010 does not specify a minimum age limit for the PC of GR:

7 Gender reassignment

(1)A person has the protected characteristic of gender reassignment if the person is proposing to undergo, is undergoing or has undergone a process (or part of a process) for the purpose of reassigning the person's sex by changing physiological or other attributes of sex.

(2)A reference to a transsexual person is a reference to a person who has the protected characteristic of gender reassignment.

(3)In relation to the protected characteristic of gender reassignment—

(a)a reference to a person who has a particular protected characteristic is a reference to a transsexual person;

(b)a reference to persons who share a protected characteristic is a reference to transsexual persons.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/section/7

Section 85 mentions pupils with the PC of GR:

85 Pupils: admission and treatment, etc.

  1. In the application of section 26 for the purposes of subsection (3), none of the following is a relevant protected characteristic—

(a) gender reassignment;

(b) religion or belief;

(c) sexual orientation.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/section/85

EA2010 Explanatory Notes mention that transsexual pupils are protected from discrimination:

EA2010 Explanatory Notes

Section 85: Pupils: admission and treatment, etc.

  1. This section is primarily designed to replicate the effect of provisions in current legislation applying to schools. In addition, it extends protection from discrimination to transsexual pupils and pupils who become pregnant.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/notes/division/3/6/1/2

Shockingly, the GRA2004 does not set a minimum age limit for diagnosis of "transsexualism":

GRA 2004:

25 Interpretation

“gender dysphoria” means the disorder variously referred to as gender dysphoria, gender identity disorder and transsexualism,

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/7/section/25

The GRA does however set a minimum age (18) for application for a GRC:

1 Applications
(1)A person of either gender who is aged at least 18 may make an application for a gender recognition certificate on the basis of—

(a)living in the other gender, or

(b)having changed gender under the law of a country or territory outside the United Kingdom.

+++++

This is how the concept of the "transgender child" aka "transsexual child" was smuggled into UK legislation.

It might be argued that the concept of "gender identity" as some sort of "inner essence" was also smuggled into the GRA 2004, in the reference to "gender identity disorder". However, even transactivist Law Professor Stephen Whittle and Lewis Turner could not settle in this 2007 mind-bendingly muddled article whether they thought the GRA2004 reflected a "new cultural concept of gender identity" or whether it was the same thing as "gender" or actually the determinant of "sex".

Whittle, S and Turner, L (2007) ”Sex changes’? Paradigm shifts in ’sex’ and ’gender’ following the gender recognition act?’. Sociological Research On-line, 12 (1). pp. 1-15. ISSN 1360-7804
https://e-space.mmu.ac.uk/621107/

Whittle was busy advising Parliamentarians on both the GRA2004 and relevant sections of the EA2010 so we have her to thank for the "gold plating" of both, going well beyond what was actually required of the UK Government.

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 03/03/2026 23:16

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 03/03/2026 15:43

Speaking from direct knowledge, this is happening all the time in Brighton.

All Sorts https://allsortsyouth.org.uk visit the classroom and ram home the 50 genders thing, they clearly state this is fact and anyone who objects needs reeducation.

It's in every lesson, not just PSHE, it is shoe horned in everywhere as a backdrop to discuss History, Geography, even maths

It happens from a very early age, we are talking below 10, getting them early - telling impressionable children, who trust their teachers - because every parent told them to - and now they have been conditioned to not notice, not object and not do anything about the Cuckoo who has been placed in their toilets, changing rooms and classrooms.

Appalling abuse of all the children subjected to this indoctrination by schools! It has to be stopped!

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 03/03/2026 15:43

Speaking from direct knowledge, this is happening all the time in Brighton.

All Sorts https://allsortsyouth.org.uk visit the classroom and ram home the 50 genders thing, they clearly state this is fact and anyone who objects needs reeducation.

It's in every lesson, not just PSHE, it is shoe horned in everywhere as a backdrop to discuss History, Geography, even maths

It happens from a very early age, we are talking below 10, getting them early - telling impressionable children, who trust their teachers - because every parent told them to - and now they have been conditioned to not notice, not object and not do anything about the Cuckoo who has been placed in their toilets, changing rooms and classrooms.

It's in every lesson, not just PSHE, it is shoe horned in everywhere as a backdrop to discuss History, Geography, even maths.

I don't know how many different lessons it appears in at my daughters' school - I did try and find out how the governance on lesson content worked, but got no clarity.

It turns out that today in Spanish the lesson covered how to say "I identify as a girl/boy".

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