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Bayswater sueing Auntie Beeb

23 replies

lcakethereforeIam · 28/02/2026 12:15

I wonder if William Bragg will be called to the stand?

https://archive.ph/FSho1

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/02/28/parents-court-battle-to-protect-children-bbc-pro-trans-bias/

I just hope he doesn't sing.

Everything crossed for the parents.

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OldCrone · 28/02/2026 12:33

The article talks about "the corporation’s “biased approach” stretching back nearly a decade", but it goes back even further than that. This programme, encouraging children (particularly girls) to identify as trans, was broadcast on CBBC in 2014.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/proginfo/2014/46/my-life

hholiday · 28/02/2026 13:09

This is so, so shocking. The BBC broadcast a programme advising girls how to bind their breasts?!!! I really hope these parents are successful. As well as protecting children, it could be a game-changer in terms of forcing Ofcom and the BBC to be accountable.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 28/02/2026 13:12

So pleased to see them finally being held to account for their anti safeguarding / gaslighting children approach over so many years.

nauticant · 28/02/2026 13:12

It would seem that Bayswater are planning to seek a judicial review into the action of Ofcom. For some reason Ofcom holds the view that they'll act to investigate bias but not when it comes to gender ideology. That's a sacred area and is off-limits.

BonfireLady · 28/02/2026 13:18

It's about time that the BBC started getting some exposure on this.

So far, they've been able to keep it all pretty quiet. It was captured in the dossier (that the Telegraph published) but somehow* the public story became that Tim Davie resigned solely because of the Donald Trump disinformation clip editing.

*If I were a cynical person, I might think that it was preferable to have one headline story while quietly trying to reverse-engineer some kind of "balance" relating to this global medical scandal. I guess they're about to find out how difficult such an approach would be, should they try something like that - in court.

borntobequiet · 28/02/2026 13:42

Good. More than happy to help fund any such efforts.

YellowRoom · 28/02/2026 15:07

Thrilled to see this - best of luck ti Bayswater. Billy Bragg ffs.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 28/02/2026 16:51

Good to hear, I hope they win.

Just going by the list of things in the article the BBC have been pushing this genderwang bollocks on it's audience, which on this occasion are children "described children as “small adults trapped in bodies” WTAF

If the government wants to protect the nations children by banning under 16 year olds from social media platforms, maybe they should ban harmful content being shown on the 'nations broadcaster' first.

junipery · 28/02/2026 17:28

I don’t watch the Laura Kuenssberg programme. Is it normal for singers or showbiz types to be asked questions on politics etc?

I think whatever happens this will get this area being discussed which is much needed.

IwantToRetire · 28/02/2026 20:06

I am glad that the Bayswater Group is prepared to do this.

And I know everyone loves to have a go at the BBC, but the reality is, it isn't just the BBC. But if they do win against the BBC then other broadcasters will have to take note. Look at C4 content, or IYV's whimscial plays about trans children.

The issue is how did the BBC along with other media outlets, politicians, employers all get captured.

We are still at the early stages of making any progress in undoing that capture.

Why would employees at the BBC be any different than all the other supposedly sane grown ups ever get caught up in and apparently convinced that trans culture was the latest "progressive" step society was making.

For all broadcasters and newspapers etc., there should be some mechanism or reality checker before they start taking a position on something like this.

But was around at the time it first started to say or challenge this is not a universal position.

OldCrone · 28/02/2026 20:32

The issue is how did the BBC along with other media outlets, politicians, employers all get captured.

And they've been captured for well over 10 years. I remembered this blog post from 2016 (and somehow managed to find it again) complaining about the BBC's coverage of trans issues.

The Bias of the BBC – Not The News in Briefs

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The Bias of the BBC

The BBC charter specifies that ‘we should do all we can to ensure that controversial subjects are treated with due accuracy and impartiality’. I have written numerous complaints to the …

https://helensaxby.com/2016/06/05/the-bias-of-the-bbc/

IwantToRetire · 28/02/2026 20:41

Yes its frightening to think how long it has been going on. ie what enabled an article like that to be published in 2016.

And perhaps worse or sadder is that the media being captured has led to many people, adults as much as children, becoming captured as well.

I wonder how many if asked would think there is a problem with the programmes mentioned by the Bayswater Group.

Even with recent pro GC legal decisions suspect many are still operating on the "be kind" view point. But somehow never taking in to account that being kind to one group means you are being unkind to another group.

Bertiebiscuit · 28/02/2026 20:58

Bragg is one of the best known misogynists, vile man

HildegardP · 28/02/2026 23:25

Good luck, Bayswater. At least they've got good standing arguments.

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 28/02/2026 23:48

Bertiebiscuit · 28/02/2026 20:58

Bragg is one of the best known misogynists, vile man

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Starring that 'orrible misogynist Billy Bragg!

Misogyny
Kellie-Jay Keen (Lyrics); Music AI

VERSE 1
I've sold more of my soul than any record
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And just because you say you want rights for women
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CHORUS
Misogyny
Like a rocket fuel charging me
Misogyny
Your boundaries don't apply to me
I love the brothel where no one makes demands for reason
Where I pretend I'm a rock star for just one more season

VERSE 2
I claim I honour women but I can't define the word
I pretend the concept of an adult human female is fundamentally absurd
I'm on the side of history
If it was full of rapists and perverts, that's the word

BRIDGE
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CHORUS
Misogyny
Like a rocket fuel charging me
Misogyny
Your boundaries don't apply to me
I love the brothel where no one makes demands for reason
Where I pretend I'm a rock star for just one more season

VERSE 3
I'm sure that everybody sees how much my thinking is for cash
My cringefest ways, my woke displays, and calling people fash
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CHORUS
Misogyny
Like a rocket fuel charging me
Misogyny
Your boundaries don't apply to me
I love the brothel where no one makes demands for reason
Where I pretend I'm a rock star for just one more season

OUTRO
Berating women, spewing Nazi for your consideration
Belittling women and their concerns is my ultimate masturbation
Misogyny… like a rocket fuel charging me
Misogyny… your boundaries don't apply to me
I love the brothel where no one makes demands for reason
Where I pretend I'm a rock star for just one more season

Misogyny

Helleofabore · 01/03/2026 06:02

I wonder if this will force change. I hope so.

junipery · 01/03/2026 12:08

And I know everyone loves to have a go at the BBC, but the reality is, it isn't just the BBC.

This is a good point but I think that because the BBC does educational content too that it’s worse and needs to be held to a higher standard.

OldCrone · 01/03/2026 13:29

junipery · 01/03/2026 12:08

And I know everyone loves to have a go at the BBC, but the reality is, it isn't just the BBC.

This is a good point but I think that because the BBC does educational content too that it’s worse and needs to be held to a higher standard.

Also, the BBC is publicly funded and is supposed to be impartial. It's not the same as a commercial TV company doing this.

IwantToRetire · 01/03/2026 19:09

Not saying the points aren't right about the BBC being different from commercial channels, but in terms of public influence the BBC is quite low down on the chart. It is assumed to be the source for older people. Many choose not to listen to it or read it because it is seen as establishment and so they go to any number of sources.

Edited to add that I think the same standard should be applied to all, particularly if they say they are saying they are broadcasting news or information via a documentary.

I think the issue of the BBC's status is just a side track and doesn't then deal with the real problem which is that nearly every "news" or media outlet has been Stonewalled.

And ironcally because of this obsessive harping on about the BBC if in fact they changed their tone most people are now so invested in saying the BBC is wrong, everyone would just shrug it off and keep tuning in to unregulated commercially funded outlets.

I think if people want to campaign about the BBC they should get on and do it. But by constantly going on about the BBC in just about everything, whatever the everything is just get lost and it just becomes another ritual lets have a go at the BBC!

lcakethereforeIam · 03/03/2026 12:43

I happened across this bit of backslapping on the Beeb website

Landmark report highlights BBC’s vital role in children’s education, wellbeing, providing trusted information and culturally relevant storytelling https://share.google/aEZdjl8Lx8GSlc4zq

I'm not saying the pp isn't making a very good point though.

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OldCrone · 03/03/2026 16:47

IwantToRetire · 01/03/2026 19:09

Not saying the points aren't right about the BBC being different from commercial channels, but in terms of public influence the BBC is quite low down on the chart. It is assumed to be the source for older people. Many choose not to listen to it or read it because it is seen as establishment and so they go to any number of sources.

Edited to add that I think the same standard should be applied to all, particularly if they say they are saying they are broadcasting news or information via a documentary.

I think the issue of the BBC's status is just a side track and doesn't then deal with the real problem which is that nearly every "news" or media outlet has been Stonewalled.

And ironcally because of this obsessive harping on about the BBC if in fact they changed their tone most people are now so invested in saying the BBC is wrong, everyone would just shrug it off and keep tuning in to unregulated commercially funded outlets.

I think if people want to campaign about the BBC they should get on and do it. But by constantly going on about the BBC in just about everything, whatever the everything is just get lost and it just becomes another ritual lets have a go at the BBC!

Edited

The point I was trying to make wasn't anything to do with the influence of the BBC or where people get their news. My point was that the BBC is funded by taxpayers (the licence fee is effectively a tax for watching live TV). So it's more like the civil service or the NHS or the police than other TV companies. (Of course I know that the civil service, the NHS and the police have also been Stonewalled).

The BBC has certain obligations which are set out in its charter, and it's a public service which should be impartial.

Charter and Agreement

The BBC has obligations to the public which commercial TV companies do not. Those companies can show bias, and there's no legal compulsion to be unbiased, just like newspapers. The BBC shouldn't be biased in this way, because it goes against the royal charter which requires the organisation to be impartial.

Charter and Agreement

The Royal Charter is the constitutional basis for the BBC

https://www.bbc.com/aboutthebbc/governance/charter

WittyLimeBiscuit · 03/03/2026 18:56

OldCrone · 28/02/2026 20:32

The issue is how did the BBC along with other media outlets, politicians, employers all get captured.

And they've been captured for well over 10 years. I remembered this blog post from 2016 (and somehow managed to find it again) complaining about the BBC's coverage of trans issues.

The Bias of the BBC – Not The News in Briefs

It only takes one or two strategically placed troons, and the silence of others

KnottyAuty · 03/03/2026 19:08

Not sure if anyone else has mentioned this, but the BBC is known internationally as a gold standard in broadcasting and has huge influence across the world. While it continues to ignore and deplatform GC views and sex realist reporting, so will many others. When they finally change their style guide, a huge number of broadcasters will follow…

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