Re-learning the non-meanings of words like 'man', 'woman' etc

[Dido666]

'We deny the separation of bodies, minds, and selves' - a central tenet in the Manifesto for Trans Health. But surely, to be 'trans' - ie to separate what you 'feel' like from what you 'are' does just that, by definition? Judith Butler writes that gender is a sociological construct- I agree. So why try to make your body or your clothes or whatever else you think changes your gender, match your externally-managed construct? I have never found a satisfactory answer to this question. Shon Faye starts by citing the insistence of one 3-year-old, as though that were enough to dismantle everything that has been obvious since the dawn of humanity.

I personally don't know how it 'feels' to be a woman, other than my biological construction. I can remember when I was young desperately wanting to be a boy, because I was quite a little toughie and happiest playing with the boys down the road. Does this mean that if I had had an 'enlightened' mother she would have encouraged me to become one?

Trans people say that they have always felt that they are not the gender that they have been assigned. I would question how that feeling is generated, when at 3 years old you are unlikely to have a full grasp on your own identity, gender or otherwise. Believe me I have struggled with mine most of my (rather long) life.

But whatever I choose to call myself, I do not want to spend years learning that actually, biological men and biological women are not really men and women at all but some other wildly complex thing that has to be carefully taught to children to make sure they use the right pronouns for everyone, even though many of them were not previously even sure what a pronoun is, is surely misguided. Many trans 'activists' do not appear to know the meanings of words like 'socialist' or 'left wing' or 'authoritarian' in any other context than that of their own personalities. I have been proudly socialist most of my life - doubt over a logical construct doesn't make me into a bigot, just someone who likes to call things what they are. And that's what it seems ultimately to come down to - doublethink, exactly like Orwell predicted.0p

I gave up trying to make it make sense years ago, I think because they can't blind us with science, because the science contradicts all their babble, they've settled for baffling us with bullshit.

I'm not confused about who I am, I used to think I didn't really fitted into the world, a square peg in a round hole sort of thing. I used to think it was my fault until I reached my 20's and they I realised it's the world's fault, so not my problem. In the words of Popeye, I ams what I ams. Nothing JB says it's worth listening to it's all cobblers.

I would like to know, however, if there are 3 years olds who know they're 'born in the wrong body' why aren't there any 3 years who know something useful like how to flush a toilet, put their clothes away, make they're own beds? 🤔

Ha ha ha, if they’re so clever they know they’re in the wrong body, why do they still think tooth fairies and Pokémon are real? And why don’t they know their own bodies well enough to get their shoes on the right feet?

This is exactly why there are screams of ‘dogwhistle’ etc when anyone asks for definitions of the words they are using 🙄
Which is one reason why this taking hold in universities - which are usually pretty hot on ‘define your terms’ - is so depressing

"...because they can't blind us with science, because the science contradicts all their babble, they've settled for baffling us with bullshit".

This. There's no point in trying to understand the science or ideology behind trasngenderism as there isn't any. I noticed on here that the other week we were being scolded that "nobody talks about people changing sex, it's gender" by transactivists. Followed by a week later by a ransactivist talking about his medication and endless rambling anecdotes about how he's no longer a man but has changed sex to be a woman.

We expend far too much energy on being polite and "compassionate" to men who just need telling no.