My daughter is taking testosterone

[tinkerella1]

My daughter was socially transitioned by her school. She was coming out of it but during A-Levels and applying for University her anxieties came right back and so did the trans identity. She kept it secret and as soon as she turned 18 she accessed cross sex hormones online. The problem is we have a history of aggressive hormone cancers in the family. She’s also underweight and I have been told that even the Tavistock wouldn’t prescribe to her. When I phoned the GP he was dismissive as in “well she’s 18 she can make her own mistakes “ He did though put note on my records not hers!

I’ve now found out that Boots in her Uni town has dispensed Testosterone to her. They will only ask the standard questions according to my local Boots. It’s is absolutely insane that the UKs biggest pharmacy will hand out a controlled substance to an underweight 18 year old. If she tried to get a weight loss drug she’d have more trouble. I am disgusted that Boots are making my child ill with its lax safeguarding and distribution of a substance that has known long term consequences. If you care about this issue please help raise awareness of this medical disaster in the making. And it isn’t just my daughter. A friends son is determined to go on testosterone as soon as he turns 18 to bulk up. We are sleeping walking into a lifetime of medical consequences that 18 year olds cannot comprehend. I don’t know what to do but I hope the sisterhood of this place can help.

Thank you for this. It perfectly illustrates how aggressive trans ideology completely disregards the health and safety of young people in pursuit of furthering its agenda.

Lots of people take hormone drugs, I think you're over stepping the mark here.

This sounds like it has the fingerprints of Gender GP all over it.

Regarding your daughter, the advice from @SingleSexSpacesInSchools sounds really good. If you can speak to your daughter, the parallel with weight loss drugs is a good one. I would stress to her that you would have the same reaction, whatever the reason she was accessing medical treatment without adequate safeguards. Set aside the trans aspect aside, ask her what she would say to an underweight friend who was paying for 'fat jabs'. If you can get her to a decent therapist try that. Calmly explain that "obviously no reputable Dr could possibly object".

Do you mean men taking anabolic steroids ( and harming themselves)?

Do you mean women taking HRT post menopause as the hormones which are in harmony with their female bodies, and following years of study
into the effects?

A young under-weight woman taking male hormones with untrialled and reportedly very adverse effects on females is very different.

I mean overstepping the mark as in it's not your body and not your choice.

We don’t endorse drug abuse in fact we make it illegal. Testosterone an anabolic steroid & a Class C drug so possession without a prescription is punishable by up to two years in jail.

I'm so sorry OP.

My cousin's child still has health problems from her time taking T. She's long stopped, but the health issues persist and no one seems to know if they'll right themselves.

Female systems are not built for these kind of dosages of T.

Right, and this individual has a prescription.

The OP has outlined her concerns about the suitability of this prescription. If you don't think that there are disreputable prescribers issuing prescriptions without sufficient safeguards you are incredibly naive.

We recognise that some people over 18 are legally adults, but still vulnerable. The OP mentions anxiety and weight loss, as well as family history of hormonal cancers. All medication has side effects so it's not unreasonable for a parent to want to ensure that a vulnerable adult is making an informed decision.

Male pattern baldness AND menopause in your twenties-what a path to go down.

I would emphasise the baldness, not the "bottom growth". Someone I know went on testosterone and was really keen for "bottom growth" but then she started to go bald and couldn't cope. Decided she'd rather have hair and stopped.

Agree with a complaint to Boots & if you have the details of the prescribing doctor check where they are working (may also work for the NHS) & what organisation they are registered with and complain there as well. Worth flagging to their NHS employer if they are issuing unsafe prescriptions privately.

Keep it very simple and factual and focus on the low body weight & possible eating disorder being a safety issue.

One's stance on cross-sex hormones is irrelevant- if someone has a low BMI that must be considered when prescribing and dispensing drugs, very easy to over-dose someone who is low body weight.

I agree

What kind of quack has given her these?

It's an awful situation, but I think going after Boots is misguided. It would probably be better to focus your attention on whoever actually wrote her the prescription, and on what you can do, as her mum, to help bring her out of this.

Thanks for the responses (apart from the deliberate rage bate ones)

It’s easy for a young person to go to the gender quack GPs. And it’s easy for them to either hide their medical history or; because they are so young, not know about family history of autoimmune diseases and cancer. Obviously a person who just really wants the hormones will say and do anything to get them. If the Dr really wants a lifelong patient they will accept feeble ignorance without doing any multidisciplinary approach to find if this really is the correct path.
The multidisciplinary approach hasn’t happened; if it had they could see from her GP records the multiple red flags.

@Perfect28 Private healthcare or any healthcare isn’t simply about giving a patient what they want because they want it. It’s not a tattoo. The endocrine system is a complex system of hormones, just ask anyone with PCOS or Thyroid issues. The first principle of being a Dr is First Do No Harm not “satisfy the patient’s delusion whilst fattening the bank balance”

Yes I agree, but I’ve already had within my parent friends another Mother with the same problem with Boots.

I don’t actually know the quack who supplied the prescription but I understand that by reporting their prescriptions it does come back to quack that wrote them.
I’m doing my own multidisciplinary approach of going through the Pharmacy reporting in the background whilst providing support for my daughter. She is after all the most important.

fashionqueen0123 · Today 11:24

What kind of quack has given her these?

One with the same sort of morals and lust for cash as Helen Webberley, I imagine.

It's interesting to learn that you can contact a doctor, to express concerns and ask for a review of a child, who is over the age of consent. Do you know the name of the doctor, tinkerella1?

There are also true believers like Sam Hall a trans identifying female in Brighton who has now left their GP practice under a cloud after prescribing testosterone to thousands of girls on demand.

As if any parent stops worrying about their child when they are 18 anyway.

I wanted to highlight this point about knowledge of own family history. It's a good reminder that we should all make sure to tell our kids about family illnesses, and could be a useful action point for OP.
Maybe write out a family medical history as a google doc and share with everyone in family?

This must be so hard for you, but I think in time the shock will wear off and you will gradually come to accept it. It could be worse. She could have some horrible incurable disease for example. Not to diminish your distress, I would find it so so hard if this happened with my DC. I'm very sorry you are going through this

She has a mental health condition that may well end up killing her due to the testosterone she is taking and the increased risks of heart attack stroke and cancer which is particularly concerning considering the family history of cancer and the fact that this young lady has a very low bmi.
Whilst I suspect that you are trying to be helpful but you're really not and minimising the risks of cross sex hormones is reprehensible.

So you're advocating for a young person with KNOWN previous anxiety and possible other mental health issue to have access to life altering drugs WHILE she's in a state of mental upheaval?

Well done.

Your kind will really stop at nothing to further the agenda will you? Even if it means harming kids who don't have the capacity to understand what they are doing.
This lady has a DAUGHTER.
There's no son involved.
Just as YOUR mother still has whatever child she gave birth to.

I do think it's a mental illness. And had forgotten OP saying this about her health potentialities. I genuinely hope it will be a phase and she will come out of it soon

Not nearly good enough but a start. More people need to realise the dangers of cross sex hormones in crazy high doses

NHS to stop prescribing sex hormones to trans-identifying children

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15625107/NHS-stop-prescribing-puberty-blockers-trans-identifying-children.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton