Puberty Blocker Trial Paused

[CrocsNotDocs]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/e0a6d8e8751dbca8

Good start. Now shut it down.

Testosterone can be prescribed currently from age 17 online, with no restrictions other than a self diagnosis, as a cross sex hormone or to those who consider themselves non binary. Any gender questioning female under 30 is still at terrible risk irriversable harm. They're sometimes told they can stop at any time without consequences.

I think there’s a big difference between what’s actually best for these kids & what seems best to them. Trans Reddit is full of desperate teenagers wanting to get hold of oestrogen or testosterone because they think that’s the best thing for them.

‘The trial is funded by the National Institute for Health and Care Research (NIHR) and NHS England. ‘

So basically - we (the uk tax payers) were going to pay for it. We are the sponsors.

I listened to this interview with Kirsty Entwistle, one of the Tavistock whistleblowers. She explained very clearly how her previous professional experience in a Rochdale children's home had shown her that children will cry and scream and rage to be able to do things that are desperately harmful and which you are trying to protect them from.

It's incredible how many professionals have been blinded to that with gender issues. It's like they know nothing about child development or psychology.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0ksl8s9?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

Or they know but don’t care? Have different motivations? For many people it’s not about the health and well being of children. Sad but true.

Love Kirsty. A voice of reason - one of many - that came out of that place.

It was shown so clearly by the grooming scandal. All responsibility off loaded onto the children so that adults didn't have to do anything.

Transgender Trend pointing out that the headline to this should be:

"Puberty blockers trial paused by regulators who signed it off"

https://x.com/Transgendertrd/status/2025149963643064501

Again this highlights that there are some very dangerous to children people in powerful positions in the NHS.

Regarding gendered souls , I saw this shared on SM yesterday. KJK makes two especially striking points here:

"The modern state may treat self-description as an act of courage that we must not doubt....."

and (my favourite)

"Trans doesn’t exist beyond language. It means nothing."

The whole piece is worth reading, if only to pull back to first principles a bit. We're all neck deep in it, but sometimes there are such basic truths like above, that we forget about.

archive.ph/lSdfm

But what is 'gender distress'? What is a gender?

Why would anyone assume that the permanent prevention of puberty is a cure for anything?

Ironically, the suggestion that these treatments are life saving suggests an inability to accept the existence of the many trans identifying adults who were not prevented from going through puberty.

I agree but I think many people haven't paused to think about it deeply enough to realise details like that or what that means. Certainly within government I don't think many people care enough about women and children to do that kind of thinking.

I remember when I first heard talk of these drugs being used to "pause puberty" and "give thinking time"; it didn't occur to me that any child would be permanently prevented from going through puberty or that it was completely experimental. If you broadly trust public institutions and hear headlines in passing you won't necessarily chart it all the way through to such a shocking conclusion.

I notice that "gender incongruence" suddenly seems to be the preferred term, which is even less definable and more disturbing than the previous terms. It feels like they're trying to create a new cloak of respectability for what is still ultimately an ideology.

Or just that they're liars.

Thanks for the link, it hits the nail on the head over and over.

"If you are convinced that you are living in a state of persecution, then retaliation can feel like self-defense. History is replete with movements whose adherents believed they were striking back, not lashing out. These people think they’re the good guys."

Which is a good description of the Bash Back, they think they're 'striking back' when all they're doing is 'lashing out' and they're definitely convinced themselves they're 'good guys'. The Reddit threads that people keep linking to are full of comments from people who seem convinced they're living in a 'state of persecution'.

Is it possible that the trial was paused because not enough children were signed up? The bribes offered seemed to indicate that. If so, this is a good sign that the general public is more aware of the dangers of puberty blockers.

This post made me wonder:

Up till now, there was this feeling of "group righteousness", of being part of of a "community", all in the system together, all part of an embattled but resolute tribe riding the wave together (matching language, approved talking points for doctors etc)

But with the trial, they are each going to be named, logged, recorded, identified, held personally responsible for their choices, with full scrutiny on them. I think that makes it feel less tribe-like, less of a "we're fighting the good fight together!" cult narrative. And much more of a personal, singular choice.

And that is harder to reconcile and justify and go ahead with, when you are lying in bed at 3am than when everyone round you is also part of it.

And if the researchers weren’t aware that puberty blockers might cause loss of bone density or cognitive impairment (which, let’s face it, they can’t not know by now) - in an ethical trial, if children started experiencing these issues then not only would those children be removed from the trial, but the whole trial would be shut down because of safety concerns!

Let’s be clear: if one child experienced these side effects, the trial (under normal circumstances) would be shut down.

Look at things like the withdrawal of DayNurse from pharmacies - that was one the basis of (I believe) one adverse interaction with anaesthetics. And that was an over-the-counter drug in common use, not one with already known detrimental side effects.

If that was the standard, then the death of the young man during the development of the Dutch protocol should have been enough to stop this whole horror show in its tracks.

Exactly!

As in:

Who's going to insure this nonsense?

They can't let taxpayers be on the hook for the enormous repercussions and financial compensation likely to be paid to victims of government sanctioned abuse.

I think as well, if the parents have any doubt, their job is easier now. Not all parents are going gung-ho for immediate medicalisation of gender questioning children. Those who are may well still find a way, but those parents who are thinking that rushing into potentially harmful treatments might not be the best approach have got more of an argument against it.

Bash Back are making more threats. I wonder how long before they start attacking people as well as buildings, & how long they’ll be allowed to get away with their vandalism.

I wonder how much support this whole circus would have if they weren’t called the cutesy “puberty blockers” but rather what they got called when used for incarcerated paedophiles: “chemical castration drugs”?

Oh yes, chemical castration is totally the way to go for children. All children should be chemically castrated until they decide what type of personality they want to have.

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