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Mass Shooting in Tumbler Ridge Canada

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fromorbit · 11/02/2026 07:59

Looks like it was a man in a dress. Another tragedy. More lives lost. Boys with violent tendencies cannot be told they are actually girls. The violent background of trans activism is a problem.

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https://x.com/reduxx/status/2021483339719311435

BREAKING

The identity of the Tumbler Ridge shooter can now be confirmed as Jesse “Jess” Strang.

Strang is a biological male who started to “identify” as a "girl" around 2023.

Strang was raised in a family that valued hunting, and began learning how to shoot rifles when he was just a child. Many guns were kept in the family's residence.

Facebook posts from his mother indicate he may have struggled with behavioral issues, including violent tendencies, from a very young age.

Strang fatally shot 10 people prior to taking his own life.

In 2021, Strang launched a YouTube channel that was promoted by his mother on her Facebook. The channel was dedicated to "hunting, self-reliance, guns" and his other interests. At some point, Strang deleted the content on the channel and changed his handle from "Jesse Boy" to "JessJessUwU." The only remaining post on the channel was made 6 months ago and reads "I've been pretty, um, aimless."

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BREAKING The identity of the Tumbler Ridge shooter can now be confirmed as Jesse “Jess” Strang. Strang is a biological male who started to “identify” as a "girl" around 2023. Strang was raised in a family that valued hunting, and began learning ho...

https://x.com/reduxx/status/2021483339719311435

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RedToothBrush · 12/02/2026 11:08

nicepotoftea · 12/02/2026 10:35

https://www.visittumblerridge.ca/getting-here

This gives an idea of how isolated Tumbler Ridge is.

It's about the size of a large English village.

I wonder how much support there would have been for anyone with any kind of mental illness?

It also sounds as though it was built to serve the mining industry (which was never successful) and doesn't have much else going on.

I know nothing about guns or gun culture in Canada, but would most families in a town like this expect to have guns?

It's essentially frontier country isn't it? So yes guns are actually arguably needed in a way we find difficult to comprehend in the UK.

We kinda know about US 'red necks' (and I use the term very broadly and liberally in this context) but there's also a Canadian equivalent which has it's own set of characteristics unique to Canada. There are similarities but with the US but also massive differences.

My Uncle has lived in Canada since the 60s and is naturalised. My Aunt is from a partly indigenous family. It's not many generations back in her family to hunting being a way of life. We simply don't get this in the UK for obvious reasons.

It's not something you can just change or challenge. If you are living in bear land, what would you do?

Catiette · 12/02/2026 11:17

Helleofabore · 12/02/2026 08:20

I think this article should be linked up regularly on these threads.

https://seeninjournalism.substack.com/p/reducing-a-murderous-tragedy-to-pronouns

As Gerald Posner clarifies:

‘This is not a minor semantic dispute. In high-profile crimes, accurate reporting matters. Biological sex is a data category used in criminology, public policy, and statistical analysis. Erasing it, or substituting identity categories without clarity, distorts public understanding

It means that instead of analysing - again - what leads people to commit heinous crimes like this, and whether sex, or factors around trans identification could have been a driver, we are wasting time trying to find out whether the killer was a man at all, never mind whether he identified as the opposite sex. Legacy media will address neither.

Thanks. That article reassures me that my earlier thoughts re: what a reasonable expectation would have been - acknowledgement of reasonable doubt; use of other sources; challenging the authorities - weren’t far off the mark.

SEEN:

We don’t think legacy outlets should look at a Reduxx post on X and reproduce it as if it were Moses tablets. We do think they should report that there are credible doubts about whether the killer was a woman. There’s a very easy way to do this.

and

We understand that it’s hard for outlets to publish anything without confirmation - of course. What they can do is get off the record information and let it guide their coverage accordingly. And they can press the authorities in Canada to be transparent.

emilysquest · 12/02/2026 11:17

@RedToothBrush the reporting all seems to uniformly say it was a stepbrother he killed (all the articles I have seen anyway). Have you seen ones where it says a half-brother?

Helleofabore · 12/02/2026 11:21

"We don’t think legacy outlets should look at a Reduxx post on X and reproduce it as if it were Moses tablets. We do think they should report that there are credible doubts about whether the killer was a woman. There’s a very easy way to do this."

I thought this was important too Catiette. It is like anything these days, use a media source as a reference to check further.

Catiette · 12/02/2026 11:22

Bikechic · 12/02/2026 08:55

I looked at bbc last night and it did say that killer was born male and identified as female. Tbh the thing i found most disturbing was the way the victims were described. 'Adult female, 39'. It sounds so clinical and cold. Whats wrong with saying 'a 39yo woman'?

I found that, too. But if the word “female”’s in question, what hope can the word “woman” possibly have? It leads to even less clarity. And so the victims are, again, dehumanised in this way in support of their killer’s worldview.

Give us our language back.

RedToothBrush · 12/02/2026 11:25

emilysquest · 12/02/2026 11:17

@RedToothBrush the reporting all seems to uniformly say it was a stepbrother he killed (all the articles I have seen anyway). Have you seen ones where it says a half-brother?

Step brother ah. I have wires crossed. But the point still stands that he's the eldest and it's a blended family so he's had significant family trauma and breakdown (again typical of kids identifying as trans) and probably hasn't coped well with it.

hholiday · 12/02/2026 11:32

More from SEEN in Journalism here (about the Guardian's report), but the same is true of the latest BBC report - the fact the killer was born male but 'identified as a woman' is buried in the eleventh paragraph.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8w95knp55o

They KNOW most people stop reading after the top four paragraphs - they know that's where all the key information needs to go (such as correcting the police quotes from yesterday that the killer was a woman). But - for this - they ignore their own guidelines.

From SEEN in Journalism:

This is a very serious lie about a shattering event. He was male, and trans. It’s not a point-scoring exercise to say so: it’s not stigmatising to notice and explain the lie.

Journalist convention is to explain the bones of the story in the first four paragraphs. This developed from the understanding that people don’t always read down: they may click, but they don’t scroll. Engagement tapers.

Not only that, at this point, the facts that the killer was a man (contra earlier reports) who ‘identified’ as trans (previously dismissed as speculation) are the newest lines, a fresh top.
It defies all natural editorial instincts to bury in the tenth paragraph the newest line and the explanation that its first sentence is untrue. It will know by its own data that a percentage of readers will just bounce off after reading the lie, and increasing numbers drop off by a third or half of the way down. Certainly before reaching the truth. Which turns out to be not so sacred after all.

The madness of this slavish, unquestioning devotion to the lie is puzzling and very worrying. There’s a defiance with which the paper sacrifices itself to the service of identity affirmation.

AnSolas · 12/02/2026 11:36

Cailleach1 · 12/02/2026 10:01

A man of any description is a human male, in your examples. The blond/brunette can be understood as you reference a man. As we’re naked apes, you can only be referring to our crown toppers.

On the other hand, a ginger male could be a foxy boy/man, or a ginger ‘Tom’.

Ooo your right👍
i had been going through hair colours and missed ginger tbh if it was just ginger male with no other context I would think cat

I dont think brunette male flows right not sure why🦧

RedToothBrush · 12/02/2026 11:37

Catiette · 12/02/2026 11:17

Thanks. That article reassures me that my earlier thoughts re: what a reasonable expectation would have been - acknowledgement of reasonable doubt; use of other sources; challenging the authorities - weren’t far off the mark.

SEEN:

We don’t think legacy outlets should look at a Reduxx post on X and reproduce it as if it were Moses tablets. We do think they should report that there are credible doubts about whether the killer was a woman. There’s a very easy way to do this.

and

We understand that it’s hard for outlets to publish anything without confirmation - of course. What they can do is get off the record information and let it guide their coverage accordingly. And they can press the authorities in Canada to be transparent.

Yep. That's my point too.

By the time it gets to the stage that Reduxx is confident to publish you are also at a point where there's significant noise more generally from a range of sources about the same point. You aren't talking about a rumour that has a single source.

The BBC and Mail were engaging in acknowledging the rumour through language anyway too. It's not like they were oblivious to it. That's not ok. It has to be a clear 'unsubstantiated reports' type stuff as early as it becomes a strong possibility. Otherwise you risk damaging the community that you are supposedly protecting anyway. It's a complete nonsense to be weasel wording by this point. It's like a nudge nudge wink wink which only feeds the issue. You have to stress that investigating is still ongoing and you will get back with accurate information asap. You can't pretend that the world isn't seeing these rumours, engage in reflecting these rumours through weasel words and then claim "oh well we were just being cautious and protecting x community" cos like fuck you are.

We aren't talking about ten minutes after Reduxx either in some of these cases either. It was clearly substantiated by a certain point yesterday and it wasn't being accurately reported. The fact the Guardian is STILL persisting in this bullshit is even worse.

nicepotoftea · 12/02/2026 11:41

hholiday · 12/02/2026 11:32

More from SEEN in Journalism here (about the Guardian's report), but the same is true of the latest BBC report - the fact the killer was born male but 'identified as a woman' is buried in the eleventh paragraph.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8w95knp55o

They KNOW most people stop reading after the top four paragraphs - they know that's where all the key information needs to go (such as correcting the police quotes from yesterday that the killer was a woman). But - for this - they ignore their own guidelines.

From SEEN in Journalism:

This is a very serious lie about a shattering event. He was male, and trans. It’s not a point-scoring exercise to say so: it’s not stigmatising to notice and explain the lie.

Journalist convention is to explain the bones of the story in the first four paragraphs. This developed from the understanding that people don’t always read down: they may click, but they don’t scroll. Engagement tapers.

Not only that, at this point, the facts that the killer was a man (contra earlier reports) who ‘identified’ as trans (previously dismissed as speculation) are the newest lines, a fresh top.
It defies all natural editorial instincts to bury in the tenth paragraph the newest line and the explanation that its first sentence is untrue. It will know by its own data that a percentage of readers will just bounce off after reading the lie, and increasing numbers drop off by a third or half of the way down. Certainly before reaching the truth. Which turns out to be not so sacred after all.

The madness of this slavish, unquestioning devotion to the lie is puzzling and very worrying. There’s a defiance with which the paper sacrifices itself to the service of identity affirmation.

I think it's also a measure of how much the Guardian is sacrificing itself to its American market.

Is that for commercial reasons? There are just more potential clicks on the other side of the pond?

SabrinaThwaite · 12/02/2026 11:42

The Guardian has at least updated its initial paragraph by removing the word ‘woman’, but not going as far as clarifying that he was male.

Mass Shooting in Tumbler Ridge Canada
BettyBooper · 12/02/2026 11:42

ItsCoolForCats · 12/02/2026 10:03

The Times have included a photo of him in this article, so there is no doubt what sex he is. And a photo of Maya Gebala, who is fighting for her life 😞

https://www.thetimes.com/article/f393b214-d8dc-4fa6-b476-62be4b561b63?shareToken=2b2874a031263d0feaac8af9f185b298

We're told to not trust SM and to rely on 'reputable' news sources.

And yet... This photo was debunked as early as yesterday morning by Reduxx.

Catiette · 12/02/2026 11:47

Keha · 12/02/2026 10:06

I've also not read the full thread so I don't know if this has been asked. Do we know that when authorities put out the warning saying the person is female, that they knew it was a trans man? Could it have been they were putting out information provided by callers from the school who may have only briefly seen the person and assumed them to be female?

Secondly, if I say I was a visitor and saw someone over the road with long hair wearing a dress, from a distance I would assume female. I don't know if it would have made me safer if they'd said male/transgender. Perhaps they didn't need to mention sex/gender at all and should just say suspect with description.

I am not questioning your wider points, but whaether authorities have deliberately obscured information to be PC as opposed to just making a very quick decision based on info they were told .

People have probably already covered this - haven’t yet got to the end of the thread… and I did myself a few pages earlier. The first police report was from a member of the family. This, with his problematic history and the extremely small, insular, community suggests they were pretty clear on the likely culprit. Certainly, they were clear enough not to out out a definitive claim that the shooter was “female” when lives depended on clarity.

RE: this claim that a figure seen from a distance, while under pressure, could easily be as assumed to be female… I’m honestly not remotely convinced. Our ability to sex each other is an innate survival instinct, based in multiple visual cues. I know, speaking for myself, that walking home at night and glimpsing a person disappear around a corner far ahead of me out of the corner of my eye, or sensing one barely visible in the distance, or even “feeling” someone come up behind me… I’m still often pretty damn clear whether it was male or female.

It’s a necessary spidey sense.

CapacityBrown · 12/02/2026 11:52

The distance could be from a sniper scope, heat sensor or from a helicopter. Not necessarily from the other side of the road.

DeanElderberry · 12/02/2026 11:53

Small community, possibly not totally insular. Strang's family moved in from Newfoundland (considered significant by some Canadian posters wrt both gender and guns). It is an oil town, and in my experience people working in extractive industries are often quite mobile. That brings its own problems, if people's most long-term associations are online.

I wonder where he got his psychiatric in-patient treatment? Possibly some distance from Tumbler Ridge.

Kalalily · 12/02/2026 11:54

Catiette · 12/02/2026 11:22

I found that, too. But if the word “female”’s in question, what hope can the word “woman” possibly have? It leads to even less clarity. And so the victims are, again, dehumanised in this way in support of their killer’s worldview.

Give us our language back.

I agree and as @Bikechic says, the reporting on the victims is so cold, particularly the children.

“The victims at the school were a 39-year-old female educator, three female students, all aged 12, and two male students, one aged 12 and the other 13.”

Wouldn’t it be much more human to write ‘The victims were a 39 year old female educator, three girls, all aged 12 and two boys, one aged 12 and the other 13’

Heartfelt sympathy to all the victims.

To the journalist’s credit, pronouns have not been used in this article.

I wonder if these articles are partly written by AI.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8w95knp55o

A memorial of candles and flowers are laid at a vigil for victims of a shooting at Tumbler Ridge Secondary School in British Columbia, Canada.

Police identify 18-year-old as suspect in Tumbler Ridge shootings

A candlelit vigil was held on Wednesday night in the remote British Columbia town where six people were killed and dozens injured.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8w95knp55o

ArabellaScott · 12/02/2026 12:19

nicepotoftea · 12/02/2026 11:41

I think it's also a measure of how much the Guardian is sacrificing itself to its American market.

Is that for commercial reasons? There are just more potential clicks on the other side of the pond?

Edited

Massively so, yes. US market is at least 10x size of UK.

Bikechic · 12/02/2026 12:24

I wonder if these articles are partly written by AI.

Yes, that would explain it. @Kalalily

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 12/02/2026 12:34

The BBC is moving slowly in the right direction. The latest news report I've read from them says the killer was a biological male who identified as a woman.

That is clear, at least.

lcakethereforeIam · 12/02/2026 12:34

A report in the Telegraph

https://archive.ph/gayfE

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/02/12/school-shooter-canada-transgender-jesse-van-rootselaar/

He was misgendered by his mum in 2021. I think she'll be set up as the fall guy. She does seem to have been lackadaisical about guns, but I hope the focus won't shift entirely from mental health with trans-as-a-symptom not mental health because trans-not-sufficiently-affirmed.

Revealed: 6ft trans school shooter wanted to be ‘petite’

Social media posts uncovered by The Telegraph reveal mental health issues of teen who killed eight

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/02/12/school-shooter-canada-transgender-jesse-van-rootselaar/

emilysquest · 12/02/2026 12:37

@RedToothBrush I am interested in the family setup, which could turn out to be be very relevant. A stepbrother would mean a stepfather either past or present, but he does not appear to have been mentioned (yet anyway). An uncle has been mentioned in reporting but not the stepfather.

AnSolas · 12/02/2026 12:41

Catiette · 12/02/2026 11:47

People have probably already covered this - haven’t yet got to the end of the thread… and I did myself a few pages earlier. The first police report was from a member of the family. This, with his problematic history and the extremely small, insular, community suggests they were pretty clear on the likely culprit. Certainly, they were clear enough not to out out a definitive claim that the shooter was “female” when lives depended on clarity.

RE: this claim that a figure seen from a distance, while under pressure, could easily be as assumed to be female… I’m honestly not remotely convinced. Our ability to sex each other is an innate survival instinct, based in multiple visual cues. I know, speaking for myself, that walking home at night and glimpsing a person disappear around a corner far ahead of me out of the corner of my eye, or sensing one barely visible in the distance, or even “feeling” someone come up behind me… I’m still often pretty damn clear whether it was male or female.

It’s a necessary spidey sense.

When you think about the decision process fight flight hide.
All of the variables are based around the expected physical threat that a male or female offer.

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 12/02/2026 12:43

lcakethereforeIam · 12/02/2026 12:34

A report in the Telegraph

https://archive.ph/gayfE

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/02/12/school-shooter-canada-transgender-jesse-van-rootselaar/

He was misgendered by his mum in 2021. I think she'll be set up as the fall guy. She does seem to have been lackadaisical about guns, but I hope the focus won't shift entirely from mental health with trans-as-a-symptom not mental health because trans-not-sufficiently-affirmed.

Oh, in Canada it will entirely be spun as trans-not-sufficiently-affirmed. At least in the media and political spheres.

EasternStandard · 12/02/2026 12:45

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 12/02/2026 12:43

Oh, in Canada it will entirely be spun as trans-not-sufficiently-affirmed. At least in the media and political spheres.

Terrifying. Comply to a lie or this.