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Walkden · Today 13:42
A bit like how parents take kids out of school in term time because of the "educational value" of the trip to Spain Disneyland etc
Are you suggesting that the staff (head and others) are engaged in wage theft and defrauding the State by purchasing non-educational providers?
After all a parent who (at no cost to the State) removes a child from education for a trip to Spain or Disneyland is engaged in unlawful act and can be remanded to prison.
Is the role of the school to provide each child access to education?
If the school function is not to provide education why is State funding provided and punitive measures applied to parents who fail to ensure their child attends?
One is an education provided by professionally trained staff.
Who is responsible for sourcing professionally trained staff?
Are the qualifications (or otherwise) of the adults who are tasked to provide education in the school not clearly within the remit of the Board/Head and delegated to pre-approved staff?
If not whos role/task is it?
If it is within the remit of the school is any lack of required qualification not a failing by the school staff to purchase a qualified provider?
The other is a life experience they receive during their education.
How would the change in educator change the time appocated to a subject from education to a life experience?
Is it not an adult covering a topic in both instance?
Its interesting how you move through your belief that the school is providing education but at the same time is not.
Walkden · Today 04:30
MarieDeGournay · 03/02/2026 10:17
"Schools teaching inaccuracies like that there are more than two sexes, that you can transition away form the sex you were born into, that some men are actually women and vice versa, when these are just factually wrong bothers me as a matter of principle."
Schools do not teach that there are more than two sexes. This is a straw man argument.
Schools as part of pshe will present the concept of gender and usually also the idea that some people do not accept it.
Walkden · Today 09:16
OldCrone · Today 07:35
"That isn't an "alternate view", it's part of being gender critical."
True, but not everyone is gender critical. Other people are not gender critical and as inclusive institutions will also share non gender critical viewpoints especially with it being LGBTQ + month.
Walkden · Today 11:07
OldCrone · Today 10:13
"What "non gender critical viewpoints" do you think children should be taught?"
Most schools who consider themselves inclusive, teach tolerance and respect of beliefs that other student hold. Usually pshe is more of a discussion that being "taught". Students do not pass or fail it, there are no assessments etc.
Walkden · Today 12:52
OldCrone · Today 11:54
"an outside organisation had been invited in to teach the children"
Outside organisations come into school all the time. Sometimes they do an assembly, sometimes a presentation, staying safe online, fire safety etc. this is not " teaching" in any meaningful sense. It's not like they have regular timetabled lessons from these organisations...
Walkden · Today 13:31
AnSolas · Today 13:08
"The only reason these adults involved in teaching the material have been give access to the student body is to provide teaching which the adults charged with providing education to the student body are unwilling or unable to provide."
Wrong. Another possible reason outtside presenters are routinely invited in to school to talk to students is to give them a wider educational experience.
The article does not mention what educational qualifications the visitors had. What the syllabus was, what the assessment criteria and skills were
Because they were not teaching....
Walkden · Today 13:42
AnSolas · Today 13:36
students is to give them a wider educational experience.
providing education to the student body are unwilling or unable to provide.
What is the difference here?
One is an education provided by professionally trained staff.
The other is a life experience they receive during their education.
A bit like how parents take kids out of school in term time because of the "educational value" of the trip to Spain Disneyland etc