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Interesting report on diversity of representation in BBC programmes

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DuchessofReality · 31/01/2026 17:22

Report here
https://www.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/documents/thematic-review-of-portrayal-and-representation.pdf

BBC article about it here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9312091kpeo

Well worth reading the whole document. It mentions, among other things, lack of representation of women and older women in particular, lack of diversity of geographical and class-related views, and how tick box diversity annoys people.

Sentences I appreciated:
We also found that measuring diversity by aggregating groups of sometimes very different people (such as BAME, disabled people, LGBTQ+) misses crucial detail which is required to ensure an appropriate range is present in content over time.
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However, there’s a noticeable gap between those whom the general audience wants to see more of and what specific groups within the audience feel they need. This gap is widest for LGBTQ+, black African and Caribbean communities, who express a greater desire for increased representation than the wider audience does for them.
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Nearly nine in ten say that women over 50 are represented poorly in adverts, films and television. And two thirds of women cease to feel represented in the media from the age of 46.
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Commissioners should now take a proactive role in developing on- and off-air talent, to ensure authentic portrayal of the following groups: People from working class backgrounds (in a way that represents and celebrates their own cultures) South Asians (particularly in drama and entertainment) East Asians (in all genres) Disabled people with a range of impairments (particularly focusing on incidental representation) East Europeans (in all genres)
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To help achieve diversity, measurements often group people together under labels like BAME or LGBTQ+. The term disability is itself an aggregation of a number of different conditions and experiences. This can result in some peculiar outcomes where very different groups are lumped together for no other reason than they share some common characteristic, such as being ‘non-white’.
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The aggregation ‘LGBTQ+’ tries to encompass a range of sexual orientations and gender identities, with the plus at the end used to ensure inclusivity of all identities beyond those in the term. It’s widely used as a term for gender, sexual and romantic minorities and, unlike some of the terms above, it specifically points out the range and variety it includes. However, it presents another issue in that the various groups in that umbrella label don’t always want to be associated with each other, specifically some of the L and some of the T. While we think it is still useful, it is worth pointing out that a single person cannot be LGBTQ+, any more than an individual can be BAME. As with all the above aggregations, where a programme is talking about an individual, it is best to be specific about that person rather than using an umbrella term.
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However, productions should consider their choices carefully when it comes to colour-blind casting. In depicting an anachronistic historical world in which people of colour are able to rise to the top of society as scientists, artists, courtiers and Lords of the Realm, there may be the unintended consequence of erasing the past exclusion and oppression of ethnic minorities and breeding complacency about their former opportunities.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/documents/thematic-review-of-portrayal-and-representation.pdf

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 02/02/2026 23:04

Cordeliasdemonbabies · 02/02/2026 22:55

The one that really annoyed me was Shardlake. In the books, he meets a black, Moorish, immigrant monk who ends up living in London as a physician. They are good friends and this is partly down to them both being simultaneously respected professionals and outsiders. Shardlake is a lawyer and a hunchback. Guy is a doctor and black. The ableism and racism they face is an interesting foil and allows commentary on Tudor society.

In the TV show they make these plot points impossible to address as the high Abbott and some courtiers are black.

At least they actually hired somebody with visible disabilities to play Shardlake, rather than getting Eddie Redmayne to crip up for the role.

BundleBoogie · 02/02/2026 23:07

ApplebyArrows · 02/02/2026 08:07

My (unscientific) feeling is that ethnic minorities are if anything overrepresented in TV and advertising right now, but there's also a strong tendency for them to be written and portrayed as indistinguishable from white (upper-)middle-class people in all respects other than their skin colour, and they rarely seem to resemble people one actually meets in real life.

Also if you go to the cinema the adverts are packed with ethnic minorities but when it comes to the trailers nearly everybody's white. They're happy to use minorities to sell products but not to make films that tell their stories.

Yes. I had vaguely noticed it on the tv and tried to prove myself wrong by counting the images of people in a well known retail catalogue. I found 80% of the images of people were non white which was interesting.

It’s nice that we appear to have permission to notice that sort of thing now. I mentioned the above observation - no judgement - on MN recently and was called a racist. I know I’m not so I didn’t really care but it was a bit of a jolt.

I would definitely like better representation of the South West - the attempts at a Cornish accent are painful and the portrayals are rarely positive.

TheBlythe · 02/02/2026 23:31

HildegardP · 02/02/2026 22:00

Be fair, there are people in Holy Orders whose understanding of the Christian faith could be written on a postage stamp.
The Rev Paula Vennels springs to mind.

Those are the only ones the BBC seem to draw on - probably because they reflect the BBCs ideology.

TempestTost · 03/02/2026 10:47

HildegardP · 02/02/2026 21:56

I'm still fond of it as an undemanding box set for a bout of flu. I like Mark Williams & I've known some religious who'd have given even Pope Francis a bit of a turn with their views.😂 OTH, I don't think of it as echt Father Brown at all, GK Chesterton was very partial to intellectual rigour & so was his little priest.

He's almost the opposite of book Fr Brown.

I think the episode where I stopped watching might have had something to do with abortion? It was a few seasons ago now, I remember thinking, why write this stuff in if you don't want to treat people's ideas with some level of respect?

trappedCatAsleepOnMe · 03/02/2026 11:38

I don't think these are new issues - I remember Lenny Henry being on radio 4 a good decade ago and trying to talk about barrier of being working class and not from London and all the interviewer wanted to do was focus on his ethicity. I rememeber becuase he put into words something I was increasingly feeling even then.

Thing is black history week from BBC in my 20s was how I learnt about new people and stories- they told me about Joseph Bologne, Mary Seacole, Bill Richmond pugilist in Georgian England and others - and it's only recently you start to see fims and documenaries about those people again.

What I particularly loathe, in TV dramas not set in the current day, is a storyline where all of the 'good' people react to a black/gay/Jewish character using todays morals, and all the 'bad' ones don't. Which, as the report indicated, completely misrepresents the real probability of the experience of the time, and therefore leads to the downplaying of how much racism/homophobia/anti-semitism was ingrained in society.

This also annoys me and I agree it downplays the barriers.

It's worrying how many people seem to take historical dramas as fact - which doesn't help.

soupyspoon · 03/02/2026 12:21

I can tell you what would happen though if they wrote a drama about Mary Seacole, they would misrepresent the rejection from nursing and the Florence Nightingale thing

Mary Seacole has her own autobiography, a good read and she is a businesswoman, a great business woman, hugely respected, liked, successful, clever, kind, knowledgeable about homely remedies. Im not convinced she was rejected from wanting to help with nursing on the basis of her ethnicity, I think it was due to her status and position and I suspect some racism of course but ultimately she had a different role to play. I dont think any drama would be written like that though.

trappedCatAsleepOnMe · 03/02/2026 12:29

I agree current climate I don't think they'd do justice to Mary Secome and would impose current poltcial messaging on it - but that's everywhere. Many fans of books wanted them adapted in past but after recent years many would rather they weren't.

DD1 and I were really looking forward to King & Conqueror - one the often neglect periods of history as focus tends to be on same periods again and again but we couldn't get past the first episode.

soupyspoon · 03/02/2026 12:32

trappedCatAsleepOnMe · 03/02/2026 12:29

I agree current climate I don't think they'd do justice to Mary Secome and would impose current poltcial messaging on it - but that's everywhere. Many fans of books wanted them adapted in past but after recent years many would rather they weren't.

DD1 and I were really looking forward to King & Conqueror - one the often neglect periods of history as focus tends to be on same periods again and again but we couldn't get past the first episode.

The Harold and William thing?

It was dire. I couldnt believe it.

Completely bloody made up

trappedCatAsleepOnMe · 03/02/2026 14:30

soupyspoon · 03/02/2026 12:32

The Harold and William thing?

It was dire. I couldnt believe it.

Completely bloody made up

yep - it was so awful and such a disappointment.

An Australian history person I watch on-line was getting excited about it being viewable there soon - and reminded me just how unwatchable it was.

Skybunnee · 03/02/2026 15:09

What you don’t see is everyday racism - under the breath comments or looks at people in minority groups which I’m sure still happens on the streets, public transport etc etc. I spose it would be a bit jarring and distract from the storyline but it would be more honest.

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