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Creating non-consensual sexual images to become illegal amid Grok AI backlash

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IwantToRetire · 13/01/2026 19:11

Generating sexual images without consent is set to become illegal as the Government ramps up its response to AI chatbot Grok.

It comes as watchdog Ofcom has launched an investigation into whether social media platform X has breached UK law over reports that Grok had been used to create “undressed images”.

Technology Secretary Liz Kendall said the criminal offence would be brought into force this week under the Data (Use and Access) Act passed by Parliament last year.

The Department for Science, Innovation and Technology did not specify which day it would come into effect.

Nudification apps will also be criminalised as part of the Crime and Policing Bill, which is currently going through Parliament, and it will become illegal for companies to supply tools to create non-consensual internet images, which Ms Kendall said would target the problem “at its source.”

Article continues at https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/creating-non-consensual-sexual-images-000148914.html

Creating non-consensual sexual images to become illegal amid Grok AI backlash

The Department for Science, Innovation and Technology did not specify which day it would come into effect.

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/creating-non-consensual-sexual-images-000148914.html

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TooBigForMyBoots · 13/01/2026 19:11

Great news.

IwantToRetire · 13/01/2026 19:20

TooBigForMyBoots · 13/01/2026 19:11

Great news.

So long as they actually do it, and the police implement it.

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Lovelyview · 13/01/2026 19:23

Good. I actually like Twitter/X for the gender critical feminism ironically but taking people's clothes off was gross. You can tell it's run by a bunch of idiot tech geeks. MaryCate Delvey has been asking grok to put clothes on trans identified men in bikinis and give them a haircut which was funny but also felt wrong.

ThatZanyFatball · 13/01/2026 23:34

I'm in the US and it amazes me how quickly you all in the UK can implement these common sense measures. Even if Trump weren't in office reigning in the tech titans here is absolutely impossible. Both sides of the aisle would just come up with some bs excuse on how "it's impossible" and yet so many other countries seem to be able to better regulate the same companies.

UtopiaPlanitia · 14/01/2026 00:17

I can't believe it wasn't already against the law but I'll take it being made illegal now.

Honestly, when it comes to legislating about new tech, lawmakers really need to give proper consideration to the ways it can be used by men to create pornography, create and swap CSAM, and to sexually harass women/girls.

And the creators of new tech need to have some wit and look at the same issues and build in safeguards.

IwantToRetire · 14/01/2026 01:10

Quite honestly what I cant believe is how many peopel have stayed on X.

If it were any other issue than one primarily about women, there would be a call to boycott.

That is what is disturbing.

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GoodGriefCharlie · 14/01/2026 05:09

I was going to say I can’t believe it needs to be made illegal for them to remove the functionality anyway. But sadly I can.

deadpan · 14/01/2026 09:29

@ThatZanyFatball There might be a quick move to start the process but believe me, it normally either doesn't come to fruition or isn't completed at all. It took well 10 years for the Online Safety Act to come about and even then it doesn't go far enough.
If you've ever watched Dad's Army, that's a more accurate depiction of the UK

Christinapple · 14/01/2026 17:58

IwantToRetire · 13/01/2026 19:20

So long as they actually do it, and the police implement it.

It also requires Elon Musk to be compliant. For the police to do anything Elon Musk has to hand over the data of criminals on Twitter.

It's funny, EM has tried so hard to interfere in foreign politics and make Britain into an extremist lawless country but it's because of him this law is being passed.

User2025meow · 15/01/2026 16:17

I don’t understand - so Elon Musk has agreed to stop his AI from making nude pics of women and children only in countries where this is illegal? So he is going to continue to allow it where it is not illegal? Sexual pictures of children ??? Why is he not being arrested or boycotted by everyone on earth? This is depraved? Has he no sense of right and wrong? Elon Musk has 12 children of his own! How does he not care?

TooBigForMyBoots · 15/01/2026 17:32

He has 12 children, many of them conceived by IVF and gestated by women paid to be surrogates. He needs multiple emotional support humans, women and his children either perform this role or he cuts them out.

It's no surprise he doesn't get it until governments rein him in.

Lovelyview · 15/01/2026 17:45

User2025meow · 15/01/2026 16:17

I don’t understand - so Elon Musk has agreed to stop his AI from making nude pics of women and children only in countries where this is illegal? So he is going to continue to allow it where it is not illegal? Sexual pictures of children ??? Why is he not being arrested or boycotted by everyone on earth? This is depraved? Has he no sense of right and wrong? Elon Musk has 12 children of his own! How does he not care?

They weren't nude pictures but they were undressed - swimwear - which was clearly non consensual undressing. Elon Musk will do what he can get away with. Fortunately the UK government reacted quickly but yes, other countries will have to legislate I think.

logiccalls · 15/01/2026 17:45

User2025meow · 15/01/2026 16:17

I don’t understand - so Elon Musk has agreed to stop his AI from making nude pics of women and children only in countries where this is illegal? So he is going to continue to allow it where it is not illegal? Sexual pictures of children ??? Why is he not being arrested or boycotted by everyone on earth? This is depraved? Has he no sense of right and wrong? Elon Musk has 12 children of his own! How does he not care?

Yes. Thank you for that post:

I spotted the loophole too. Also, spotted that trundling procedures through Palaces of Westminster will take forever, and a date for implementation could be set years ahead, then the UK's customarily inert, supine, purported enforcers of law will do a lot of nothing.

On Radio 4 this morning, Harriet Harman was proposing a far better way of dealing with matters involving technology, which can change hourly. Roughly, she advocates the politicians should delegate powers to take action at once, in line with general intentions of parliament.

A mixed- party group should be in charge, not an individual.

In fact, switching all legislation from laborious detail, into an agreed intention, would avoid other undesirable loophole- seeking, in all areas of law.

In everything, the enforcement is all- important: e.g.. If nobody bothers to check the water quality is dangerously contaminated, or that abuse is rife in old people's homes, or whatever, then there is not any point in even having laws piously stating this is not what Parliament approves of.

If any whistle- blower is sacked, or if any penalty is trivial, then the stated intention of Parliament is being thwarted, not only by the direct offenders, but also by the officials who have failed enforce, failed to inspect, failed to prosecute or to defend, as appropriate.

And, if they have failed to ensure the punishments are updated, enough to be feared and to result in the desired reduction of offending.

It would also seem that the enforcers, as well as the offenders, must risk serious sanctions.

The non- whistle - blowers, too, must risk being jointly charged, and automatically sacked, because they effectively collude with what they reasonably must be deemed to have known about, if they do not report it.

There is already some kind of Crime Stopper help line, enabling anonymous reporting, which would give protection to those who have reported crime, malfeasance in public office, dangerous or reckless behaviour, improper influence, wasteful squandering of funds, or other crime or borderline criminal activities they know about. Apparently, the caller will get a reference number, so that would ensure they keep out of jail, if their fellow surgeon is convicted, or whatever it is that needs to be on record.

moto748e · 15/01/2026 17:54

The first consideration for any new tech should be, how will criminals seek ot use this to their advantage? It applies to the internet in general, AI, LLMs, crypto-currencies, digital IDs, keyless cars... everything, really. But often it seems to be the very last consideration, if it's considered at all.

moto748e · 15/01/2026 17:56

Bloody hell that post got taken down the second I posted it!

TooBigForMyBoots · 15/01/2026 17:57

What did you say?🤯

logiccalls · 15/01/2026 17:57

TooBigForMyBoots · 15/01/2026 17:32

He has 12 children, many of them conceived by IVF and gestated by women paid to be surrogates. He needs multiple emotional support humans, women and his children either perform this role or he cuts them out.

It's no surprise he doesn't get it until governments rein him in.

It is probably too ugly for Mumsnetters to contemplate, but someone somewhere could nudify pictures of him and everyone in his family, then pose them doing something unspeakable and obscene. Presumably the same could be done to all male world political or religious leaders and seriously wealthy influential people, which would certainly induce at least some of them to exert influence on him.

Even those men who cannot truly grasp the idea that women and children are real people, might feel unhappy over being personally depicted in apparently genuine pictures of themselves in extreme perversions. Sauce for the goose can, for once, be applied to ganders, too.

Lovelyview · 15/01/2026 17:59

logiccalls · 15/01/2026 17:57

It is probably too ugly for Mumsnetters to contemplate, but someone somewhere could nudify pictures of him and everyone in his family, then pose them doing something unspeakable and obscene. Presumably the same could be done to all male world political or religious leaders and seriously wealthy influential people, which would certainly induce at least some of them to exert influence on him.

Even those men who cannot truly grasp the idea that women and children are real people, might feel unhappy over being personally depicted in apparently genuine pictures of themselves in extreme perversions. Sauce for the goose can, for once, be applied to ganders, too.

Someone posted a picture of Musk in a bikini and he just posted laughing emojis.

TempestTost · 15/01/2026 18:01

This seems like it could be very tricky legislation to me.

It's easy enough to say that people who use tools to create these images are flouting the law.

But the bit about "providing" tools that will create non-consensual images is not simple, since any tool that creates consensual images could also create non-consensual ones.

So is the plan to get rid of any tool that can make any image appear nude? Lots of tools that are normally used for things like altering or changing elements of an image can be used in that way.

I'd also be interested in how it's applied. There was a painter a while back who create a mostly nude image of Stephen Harper (former PM of Canada) which was a kind of political satire. It was displayed in a gallery for a bit then a private person bought it. Would that kind of thing be illegal too?

logiccalls · 15/01/2026 18:17

Lovelyview · 15/01/2026 17:59

Someone posted a picture of Musk in a bikini and he just posted laughing emojis.

Apparently the first request users can make is for the bikini, and after that, other means are easily available to remove the bikini, and to post what looks like a realistic 'true' photo, in any position and activity.

That would be far from a mere pictures of males in bikinis, which would always have been regarded as harmless and amusing, to men, including ones in power. Just the fact they are dressed up as mere women would, in their minds, make sure nobody mistook the pictures as being genuine, (and even if they were, it would be a joke, not destroying their dignity and ability to continue their work.)

Appearing in a bikini, let alone appearing nude, or appearing in some sexual activity, would never be harmless, to senior women in power.

To humiliate and dismay men, it would probably be necessary to show them entirely naked, and in the middle of depraved activities, including their own children, and family. That would not be hilarious to them.

moto748e · 15/01/2026 18:22

TooBigForMyBoots · 15/01/2026 17:57

What did you say?🤯

It's there now, they've reinstated it. It's the post dated 17:54. I didn't think it contained anything that controversial. Obviously there is some key phrase....

logiccalls · 15/01/2026 18:26

TempestTost · 15/01/2026 18:01

This seems like it could be very tricky legislation to me.

It's easy enough to say that people who use tools to create these images are flouting the law.

But the bit about "providing" tools that will create non-consensual images is not simple, since any tool that creates consensual images could also create non-consensual ones.

So is the plan to get rid of any tool that can make any image appear nude? Lots of tools that are normally used for things like altering or changing elements of an image can be used in that way.

I'd also be interested in how it's applied. There was a painter a while back who create a mostly nude image of Stephen Harper (former PM of Canada) which was a kind of political satire. It was displayed in a gallery for a bit then a private person bought it. Would that kind of thing be illegal too?

What a good point. Thank you. That would be the objective of the statement of intention by parliaments, rather than any fine details being specified in any statutory wording:

If the parliamentary intention is to make it an offence to display or share a non consensual sexualised image, then it wouldn't matter if the image was by an online tool, or by a fake 'portrait painting'. And it wouldn't matter if the initial apparently realistic image was by using a stripping tool on one platform, then the additional pornographic alterations were added by any other means.

TempestTost · 15/01/2026 18:34

logiccalls · 15/01/2026 18:26

What a good point. Thank you. That would be the objective of the statement of intention by parliaments, rather than any fine details being specified in any statutory wording:

If the parliamentary intention is to make it an offence to display or share a non consensual sexualised image, then it wouldn't matter if the image was by an online tool, or by a fake 'portrait painting'. And it wouldn't matter if the initial apparently realistic image was by using a stripping tool on one platform, then the additional pornographic alterations were added by any other means.

That's what it seems like, from what the article said.

I assume they will get into the details later but I think it will require a lot of care to define what "tools" they include.

TooBigForMyBoots · 15/01/2026 18:44

moto748e · 15/01/2026 18:22

It's there now, they've reinstated it. It's the post dated 17:54. I didn't think it contained anything that controversial. Obviously there is some key phrase....

It the reference to a currency. As soon as you make a post mentioning it, its immediately hidden.

moto748e · 15/01/2026 18:51

Ah, thanks.