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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Guardian on trans athletes

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Cordeliasdemonbabies · 13/01/2026 15:33

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/13/trans-youth-athletes-ban-supreme-court-case www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/13/trans-youth-athletes-ban-supreme-court-case]]]]

Highly unbalanced article as ever. Talks about being banned from sport instead of playing in the appropriate category. Covers the male athlete that won several state finals in the girls category with no mention of the female athletes who were cheated out of podium places.

Obviously Trump doesn't give a single, shiny shit about women and fair play but its such an easy issue to get traction on. Its so obviously unfair and the Dems cannot bring themselves to acknowledge it so its an open goal in the culture war. Gavin Newsome, the Dem California governor even said it was unfair recently and his own party lambasted him over it.

Feel very hopeless about US politics. How are people supposed to trust the party that is supposedly not insane when they back stuff like this?

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logiccalls · 14/01/2026 12:11

BookAndPiano · 13/01/2026 22:01

We must stop saying Transwomen and just say men.

The more we say Transwoman, the more acceptable the term becomes.

Every single time, we replace Transwoman with Man, it will show up the lunacy of whatever sentence it is in.

"The man demanded he have access to women's changing rooms."
"The man won the women's boxing championship"

And as for The Guardian: a more poisonous rag written by a bunch of semi literates who still think they are the cleverest pupils in the fourth form, never existed. They are ridiculous.

Happily, they are always begging for money, so hopefully their demise is hastening towards them faster than a man in a women's Fun Run.

Edited

Exactly. And I admire your turn of phrase re the Guardian !

TheKeatingFive · 14/01/2026 12:20

Horrific misogyny from the Guardian? Well, there's a surprise 🙄

Floisme · 14/01/2026 13:25

And our journalism should be grounded in the principle that trans women are women
It's not even just the misogyny, although that alone would be bad enough, it's the way they openly admit that the bedrock of their journalism is to support activism rather than report what's going on.

However I understand the Guardian's finances are secure thanks to the Scott Trust.

TheKeatingFive · 14/01/2026 13:35

Always about the money, isn't it?

nicepotoftea · 14/01/2026 13:56

BaronMunchausen · 14/01/2026 00:01

That's one weird article. The "bliss" and "joy" to be had from gender affirmation via playing in teams that match one's gender identity. Those are my quotes - the only word deserving of the Guardian's quotes is "unfairness". What could possibly be unfair about teenage boys competing against girls? The fact that the legal battles only concern "trans girls" is a coincidence unworthy of comment. One male athlete "won first place in the high jump, first place in the triple jump, and silver in the long jump in the California state finals" for young female athletes. It should, the Guardian tells us, "have been a moment of pure celebration".

Most frightening of all is the mother of a trans identifying female framing the right of males to participate in female sports as the all-important key to trans rights:
"The sports issue is so important, because it fundamentally tells us whether people believe trans people exist... Once you take the position that trans girls are not girls for the purposes of sports, you have now dehumanized them."

But didn't you know that women's sport is all about skipping around with bliss and joy? Good women leave competition to their men folk.

A reminder of when the Guardian supported feminism*

https://x.com/treesey/status/1999603905332723871

*Always noting the continued presence of Susanna Rustin who continues to fight the good fight, one can only conclude from behind enemy lines.

teresa smith (@treesey) on X

Here’s the late Jill Tweedie reviewing Jan Morris’s book in The Guardian. It must be in the Guardian’s archives somewhere. “No longer Ferdinand, never to be Miranda, the 40-year-long tempest ends with Ariel self-imprisoned in twin set and pearls”

https://x.com/treesey/status/1999603905332723871

Screamingabdabz · 14/01/2026 14:04

BookAndPiano · 13/01/2026 22:01

We must stop saying Transwomen and just say men.

The more we say Transwoman, the more acceptable the term becomes.

Every single time, we replace Transwoman with Man, it will show up the lunacy of whatever sentence it is in.

"The man demanded he have access to women's changing rooms."
"The man won the women's boxing championship"

And as for The Guardian: a more poisonous rag written by a bunch of semi literates who still think they are the cleverest pupils in the fourth form, never existed. They are ridiculous.

Happily, they are always begging for money, so hopefully their demise is hastening towards them faster than a man in a women's Fun Run.

Edited

Totally agree. If I have to use PC doublespeak (at work) I use ‘person with a transgender identity’ and the pronoun they. I refuse wherever possible to call a bloke a woman or use female pronouns.

silverwrath · 14/01/2026 14:10

Judging by the comments, my BP thanks you for reading the article so I don't have to.

You're a trooper. 🌟

Londonmummy66 · 14/01/2026 19:12

igelkott2026 · 13/01/2026 16:45

Interestingly I received an email today from my running club about a study being carried out by Loughborough University.

To be eligible you have to be a fast runner (be able to do a parkrun in under 20 minutes). Which clearly more men can do than women.

They ask for certain information, including "gender on passport". I wonder if they know you can change your recorded sex on your passport if you have a GRC.

I am tempted to send them an email but it will probably smack of sour grapes as I am too slow!

That's probably ageist as well as sexist in that I could do a sub 20 5k at 39 but at 59 can no longer do one. Perhaps Iwe could simply identify as fast runners and say we're eligible?

GCornotGCthatisthequestion · 14/01/2026 21:00

logiccalls · 13/01/2026 18:00

Nobody can change sex. Therefore there is no such thing as trans. Therefore we must stop using the invented language.

All language is invented ....

I don't really follow the logic of your point. I would say that a trans person is someone who feels uncomfortable with their sex. I don't think it means someone who has actually changed their sex, as you say, this isn't possible.

zanahoria · 14/01/2026 21:05

"Some expressed frustration and anxiety about the national debates focused on “fairness” in competition"

It must be really distressing for the cheating in sports community knowing that they are no longer able to cheat in sports

Namelessnelly · 14/01/2026 22:27

GCornotGCthatisthequestion · 14/01/2026 21:00

All language is invented ....

I don't really follow the logic of your point. I would say that a trans person is someone who feels uncomfortable with their sex. I don't think it means someone who has actually changed their sex, as you say, this isn't possible.

But many people experience “discomfort” with their sex. Does this mean they are all trans?

GCornotGCthatisthequestion · 14/01/2026 23:28

Potentially. Do you not think that having a word to describe such people is useful?

ZoeCM · 14/01/2026 23:42

nicepotoftea · 13/01/2026 18:32

To be fair, Guardian articles on this issue are well researched and balanced, as long as they are written by Sean Ingle.

It's a low bar, but that's more honest than the Guardian's previous approach. They used to allow comments on articles about trans issues, but not only would they delete any that were even mildly GC, they would delete the deletion message. So the comments section would appear 100% pro-TRA, with no trace of disagreement. At least here they're being upfront about not allowing any dissent.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 15/01/2026 06:03

GCornotGCthatisthequestion · 14/01/2026 23:28

Potentially. Do you not think that having a word to describe such people is useful?

Having a word that is accurate would be better.

Namelessnelly · 15/01/2026 06:06

GCornotGCthatisthequestion · 14/01/2026 23:28

Potentially. Do you not think that having a word to describe such people is useful?

We Do. It’s…. People. Nearly everybody has felt some discomfort with their sex at some time or other. Is everybody trans?

Iamnotalemming · 15/01/2026 08:26

What a rage inducing article.
Of course it’s Trump vs trans kids in the fight for their rights. Not a single word about the impact on the kids being forced to forgo their rights to SS sports and spaces.

igelkott2026 · 16/01/2026 18:44

spannasaurus · 13/01/2026 18:11

You can change the sex on your passport and driving licence without a GRC in the UK.

It's only the issue of a new birth certificate in the wrong sex that requires a GRC

ETA I misread your post as I wonder if you can change sex on passport rather than I wo der if they know

Edited

I didn't know you could do it without a GRC!

But yes my point was do they know that you can change the "gender" on your passport.

igelkott2026 · 16/01/2026 18:45

Londonmummy66 · 14/01/2026 19:12

That's probably ageist as well as sexist in that I could do a sub 20 5k at 39 but at 59 can no longer do one. Perhaps Iwe could simply identify as fast runners and say we're eligible?

I also thought it was a bit sexist not to have different ranges for women.

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