The National's valiant attempt to show support for genderwhang

[ArabellaSaurus]

With the loo poll you've all been waiting for!

https://archive.ph/gadZW

Alas, the results lean towards the law, and rationality.

Nae luck, lads.

'In a survey of 1000 Scots, a majority of 55% said trans people should only be allowed to use facilities which align with their biological sex. One-fifth (20%) said people should be able to use the facilities that align with their chosen gender, while 25% said they did not know.

With the don't knows removed, 73% opposed trans people using facilities of their choice, while 27% backed it. However, voters appear split on the issue along generational lines.

Subsamples from the poll show that in all the age groups above 55, support for trans people being allowed to use the facilities that align with their gender is around 7-8%.

For those aged 65-74 and 75 and above, around three-quarters (74% and 73% respectively) believe trans people should have to use facilities that align with their birth sex. This drops to 64% for those aged 55-64, and consistently drops further across every age group.

For the youngest age group polled, people aged 18-29, a plurality support trans people being able to use facilities of their choice (42% against 32% who say they should have to use facilities which align with their birth sex).

The poll also found women are more likely than men to think trans people should use facilities that match the gender they identify as, at 23% compared to 16%.'

It's almost like once women hit thirtyish, they tend to gather life experiences that lead them to appreciate single sex spaces

Mind you, for 'people aged 18-29, a plurality support trans people being able to use facilities of their choice (42% against 32% who say they should have to use facilities which align with their birth sex).' is not all that much support in the most sympathetic group, either.

Blokes: stay in the gents. Cheers.

The thing is, the poll just confirms what YouGov have been tracking. It is interesting because some people have said that this polling group has a low trust rating. Yet on this, I think the result will be confirmed by the next updated UK wide poll from YouGov.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5445880-statistics-poll-evidence-archive-thread?reply=148599887&utm_campaign=reply&utm_medium=share

I am sure someone will think this is strong evidence of support when it isn’t.

If anything, it also reflects the confusion about the SC judgement and EHRC guidance that is still with Philipson. I think had she tabled it promptly., that ‘don’t know’ number would be lower.

The poll also found women are more likely than men to think trans people should use facilities that match the gender they identify as, at 23% compared to 16%.

It would seem that men have an excellent understanding of their own sex-class.

23% of women is hella low.

Despite this paper trying to push the narrative as otherwise, that number should be instructive.

Ah, here's the methodology. I've not seen this before.

findoutnow.co.uk/find-out-now-panel-methodology

Does chief bandwagoner 'Steph' Paton still write for the national?

I think that shows that men welcome trans identified men in the gents. Someone tell them they've absolutely no need to worry, so bugger off out of the women's.

Yes. Who else would have him?!

Mmmm. Novel. No wonder they have a low trust rating.

Still, the result is not unexpected.

It may be a plurality, but well under half of the age group expected to be most sympathetic think that TW should be in female toilets - it's not looking great for the TRAs

VG point - eight months of hearing wails about how complicated it all is from the genderists (who found it very fucking simple when they were getting their own way) can't have helped anyone who wasn't clued up to start with.

'Novel' was exactly the word that sprang to mind! 😂

For info, this survey is done via a 'postcode lottery' type of recruitement site.

Yeah… unless you are keen on the postcode lottery, you are unlikely to come across these polls. Apparently though, you don’t ‘have’ to answer the question before getting the winning postcode!

I wouldn’t consider this the strongest recruitment method for surveys but it is one way to do it. It has the benefit of being less likely to recruit people dominating with one political leaning over another. But it will be skewed towards people with a positive attitude towards lottery products and them having a positive belief that they could win.

Our survey said voting Green means you are an anti science and put of touch with everyone else.

Fab! Now what are we going to do about Climate Change... wang on about anti-science people destroying the earth? Good luck with that when you are actively undermining your own biggest argument by demonstrating science doesn't matter when it doesn't fit with what you believe.

Congratulations. You are in the running for the planetary Darwin award.

Three quarters of women are not fully signed up to believing in gender.

No means no.

I see at the end the paper says that Scotland is set to elect a large majority of pro-independence MP's at the next election, which can only mean the SNP surely. So the batshittery gets to start all over again in May, it's like MacGround Hog Day.

Greens are supposedly pro-Indie. But yes, utterly bizarrely, the SNP support seems undimmed, no matter what they do. Or don't do.

Poor old The National. They are fully TWAW, and clearly commissioned this poll expecting different results 😆

Plus whoever did the charts was too thick to crop the "Made with Flourish - Create a Chart" tagline for the graphic software they used 😜