Trans people must not be used as political punchbag, says Phillipson

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Interesting to note that this article was called Labout Lost Focus on Why Single Sex Spaces Matter if you look at the web link:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/01/01/labour-lost-focus-on-why-single-sex-spaces-matter/

What does it say about the Telegraph that they changed it so that the emphasis wasn't on the loss of women's sex based rights, but on catering to trans needs.

Full article can also be read at https://archive.is/9ptZV

Which shows that Labour isn't budging

It makes a change from the phrase "political football", which used to be the term favoured by politicians.

My reading of the current situation is that is the extreme trans activists who have placed trans people and trans rights and needs in the firing line. That needs to be acknowledged.

That's fine, as long as women and women's rights aren't used as a political punchbag either.

Still stuck with "kicking the can down the road".

I think it really strange that the Telegraph has apparently been happy to use the fact that women are complaining about the Government dragging its feet, somehow doesn't have the integrity to stand by it's original title:

Labout Lost Focus on Why Single Sex Spaces Matter

which should maybe be a reminder that just because the Telegraph and the Times will publish articles about women being angry, they aren't actually that supportive of this loss, as they dont have the guts to publish a truthful headline about Labour losing its focus on Single Sex services.

Is it any wonder the real arguement never happens, and maybe we need to be wary of seeing thise articles as any sort of victory.

Never expected the Telegraph to be so gutless.

Did anyone read the article?

Its irrelevant what words they used, when far more suspect is why they removed a title that acknowledged women's sex based rights to one that is orientated to "being kind".

Not good that they changed the headline. It would be interesting to know why, because there’s a huge difference between the two, which entirely moves the emphasis.

Reading the article just made me want to bang my head off the wall - a feeling I’ve had too often really. Last year’s court cases really should have made a difference, but the activists influence is so embedded that all those who should be stopping entitled men from stealing everything are enabling them instead.

Abusers and their enablers. Never thought I’d see it on this scale.

I initially thought Phillipson delay was to prepare the ground, time and space, to confront the trans lobby, on a final decision to roll out the SC ruling in concert with ECHR framework.
How naive I was. Because everything in the Phillipson interview shows that the govt are looking to only have a rational outcome in spaces of the highest sensitivity ie refuges.
The rest of women's sex based spaces are going to be compromised in a variety of ways.
Gives me no pleasure to predict this.

Oh the brass neck! How can anyone with integrity say that trans people are political punchbags? They’ve had nothing but political red carpet while women have taken the punching down. I’ll never forgive the Labour Party for this

https://www.thetimes.com/article/3e88ebf0-a60c-455e-82c4-801192d4016a?shareToken=5c2a1e30fb366ea6b9863155778b1e5d

So women only spaces are to be grudgingly respected, but the main focus must be ensuring that men who say they are women are cosseted in their delusion.

All this ‘interpretation’ of the SC ruling. No, it’s a clarification of the existing legal position.

The idea that trans people have been/are a punchbag is laughable. Can you imagine Philipson dragging her feet if men were waiting on guidance which affected their lives? It’s only women though, and the men must be centred.

Thankfully there is no wiggle room in the Supreme Court's ruling on the Equality Act 2010. Trans women are men it clearly states.

The default is that services are open to all. So if your organisation wants to exclude men using the Equality Act provisions, that means excluding all men. Even the ones in dresses, wigs, heels and makeup who are now facing 'sad times'.

Bring on the court cases. Make Phillipson look an even bigger, traitorous fool.

However, the Government lawyers are also at fault here. Surely she isn't ignoring legal advice that she must follow the law as recently confirmed by the Supreme Court? What, in heaven's name, was their advice to her?

Benjamin Franklin said in this world there were only two things you could be certain of, death and taxes.
Well, if he was alive today, he'd have added: endless legal fees for infinity court cases re gender.

"But in recent times trans people have been used as a political punchbag in order to make an argument."

Used by whom? To make what argument?

What is clear is this is a political move. That is a refence to Kemi and beyond that to Trump being so positive about biology existing now that many in Labour want to look different.

Also the Greens with their level of crazy are worrying them from the other way.

Philipson is also trying to be nice. They are trying to divide different spaces up it looks like.

So women get refuges and sports it seems.

Changing rooms, prisons, hospital wards who knows?

They don't get toilets it seems.

So they are trying to find a non existent middle road.

Part of this too is that much of the public sadly don't care. Most will not change their vote over this in short term. Immigration and economy are the big things. It is not unimportant though because it can make Labour look really dumb long term. It is part of wider trend which can flip votes over time.

Because there are going to be more court cases as others have said. It also makes no sens in debate. Imagine you are a Labour politician and you have to argue with Kemi about this. She is going to make you look really really dumb. Women get sports but not toilets. Why?

I get fed up with thinking, I couldn't be more disappointed in Labour, but they always manage to eclipse it. More weasel words. Agree with you, @fromorbit .

Labour are ideologically committed to DEI so they're not going to budge on this so long as they're in power.

The whole of the left side of the political spectrum's mindset is post-modernism, so even if Labour take a pounding in the next election they can always cobble together a coalition of the batshiters, like the SNP did in Scotland. This is not going anywhere any time soon, there are too many party's, and too many supporters who vote for the parties, committed to this stupidity for it to just fade away.

You can tell transwomen aren't women.

No one thinks twice about punching women in political terms.

Well when you’re ready Labour let us know how you’ll provide single sex spaces for women.

The actual interview needs to be listened to it comes across better than the summary. She also stands up for women having prisons.

(gender bit starts at 40’00)

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2EEZq8pikPCOucgWy5FXWc?si=5DEkFZQ9TCa0TqaqVs78Ng&ct=2210&nd=1&dlsi=eb4f82d66c7c424d

Worth saying that what Phillipson is saying is absolutely unacceptable to TAs. We might want her to go further. However the point is we CAN force what we want to happen it will be tough though.

She clearly playing for position.

The only people being used as punching bags are women who are assaulted and threatened by TRAs - and that is on public record.

i'd like to see that point put to her by one of our truth-seeking journalists.

I found Phillipson's words moderately encouraging. She repeatedly insists on th e importance of woman-only spaces, and she isn't going further than the law in what she says about acknowledging the needs of trans people.

As for the changing headline, that probably has more to do with monitoring and responding to clicks and traffic. I wouldn't read anything deep into it.

Yes, she does actually understand the principle and reason for why we have women only facilities.

The only mainstream journalist who absolutely nailed this area was the ITV interviewer who skewered the normally super slick Nicola Sturgeon over rapist Isla Bryson.
Arguably fast tracked her on the way out of office.
No-one in the media has come close since that magical moment.
Indeed, this is why the Lanyard Class in govt and beyond can get away with abject lying and foolishness, the days of genuine media scrutiny are over.
All we have now is a shallow media class (with the odd exception, as above) that would rather go for click bait and headlines than analysis and holding truth to power.
It's how Phillipson, Starmer and Streeting are getting away with their decisions (or lack of) in this area, how Johnson was able to hide from interviews prior to the 2019 GE, how Farage and Polanski can brush off previous "indiscretions" and megaphone their populism unopposed.