Violins ready, independent article

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Didn’t spot another thread on this, apologies if I missed it

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/trans-people-women-supreme-court-judgment-b2876522.html?fbclid=IwdGRleAO6Y9xleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEe56qoZcRdbDqi36-PZWkCNiPH16I-3YJWbeNJiuE5wKqklApVXsUq9rCZ108_aem_VJsqSP9QToVms8o846jdFg

as I scrolled I thought it was about non British nationals who are getting some awful hatred at the min, (which is frankly sickening) but it’s just people who have had biology explained to them, poor loves

A big flounce

The most annoying thing about all this is all the fault lies with transactivisms chosen tactic of removing and undermining women’s rights by stealth.

Had they put in the work, debated what was workable, where the boundaries lay and considered what women needed as well as what they wanted, we might have managed to reach an equilibrium that most people could live with.

This is the ultimate FAFO situation, all created by them and now they’re wailing that it’s not fair.

Well it isn’t fair. Women have been and continue to be shafted and inevitably are now far more hardline than they would have been.

I only hope we win this in the end. Fighting against a bunch of perverted narcissistic men who hold more power than they should and have no consideration for anyone else is one of the shittiest things I’ve ever been involved in. I hope the majority of the public feel as little sympathy as I do for these selfish arseholes.

"Fox Fisher, who is non-binary transmasculine – meaning they have masculine traits but do not identify as a man or woman" WTAF. Does this mean a tom-boyish woman who imagines they are somehow 'special'? Actual women also don't 'identify' as either sex, because we don't need to because we're women.

The Communist Party are staunch on this issue, and have never wavered on it. I do wish they would attend and bang the drum at GC events and would field more candidates, but there's an option that's not right wing. They have the added bonus of making it hard for TRAs to call them Nazis.

Interesting. At the GE husting in my area last year, it was the Green candidate who was proudly GC, and the Communist one who was TWAW.

Taking testosterone too if Reddit is anything to go by. On a recent thread there was a non-binary transmasculine girl who was taking a low dose of testosterone to bulk up her muscles but not enough to grow a beard. Another girl was taking a higher dose of testosterone because she wanted a beard.

This is just drug abuse & no different to weightlifters taking anabolic steroids.

I’ve searched and found that I’d sooner shit in my hands and clap than vote Tory or those other racist shitbags. Remind me who was in government while the trans movement was gaining influence, and who was in government when the Supreme Court ruling was made?

I was going to say the same thing. It's like the abusive man who threatens to end his relationship in the hopes that his wife will change her behaviour to better fit his wants and wishes, basically. Apologise profusely and promise to do better in order to keep him.

I say to the poor Transwomen the same as I would say to the abusive husband. Off you fuck then dickhead.

I take your point about who was in charge when trans influence on govt was on the rise. But your other point is eluding me. SC verdict is Independent of whichever govt is in power.
This was all down to FWS.

SDP are also staunchly sex realists and otherwise central and conservative with a small c. Unfortunately the same applies with low visibility and small numbers of candidates.

Would the Tories ever stand up to the ECHR? I doubt it.

Badenoch will campaign on a manifesto promise to leave it. As will Farage.

Fox Fisher is a FtM trans activist and has a MtF partner Owl who is also a trans activist and writes articles for the Metro moaning about how "transphobic" the UK is.

The worst article I've seen from Fox was an article about working in a care home for elderly trans individuals. There were MtF in there who had dementia and were asking where their penis had gone and thought they had been part of a scientific experiment, and asking why their bodies had been feminised.

Fox didn't seem to gasp that dementia meant they forgot about being trans, pretty much proving that gender identity is not innate.

@PeppercornMill my first reply to your post was deleted because I had added a link to a MaryCate Delvey video which was a humorous take on what might happen if a trans person got Alzheimer's.

Despite the humour, what that video showed was how horrible it would be for someone to watch a loved one who'd had surgery to change their body when they were younger, and the inevitable mental suffering years later.

We need to foster a society where it's OK to be "gender non-conforming".

I watched a film yesterday where one of the characters was referred to as he/him and "son", when, despite the cropped hair and baggy clothes, the actor was, to me, clearly female. I Googled and right enough, the actor had "come out" as non-binary in their early 20s, it wasn't explicitly stated they were biologically female but it was pretty obvious to me.

I was a teen in the 80s and knew quite a few "butch" girls at college, some were lesbians, some straight, none of them thought they were blokes and "non-binary" wasn't a thing. In a lot of ways we've gone backwards.

Sad times.

• The Communist Party of Britain is firm on this.

• The Communist Party of Great Britain fell some time ago.
• In case you weren't confused enough, there is also a Revolutionary Communist Party of Great Britain.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WboggjNG-4 springs to mind.

Just checked. It was a Communist Party Of Britain, according to you, the GC option (not that voting Communist is really a sensible option).
Yet she was very easily IDd as TWAW, whereas the Green was easily GC.
Looks like both veered sharply from their parties official outlook.

https://communistparty.org.uk/publications/britains-road-to-socialism/ mentions subjugation and super-exploitation based on biological sex and criticises how neo-liberalism has infected the fight for gay and trans rights.

And in the January 2025 Unity: Imperialist extraction exacerbates domestic abuse and is critical for harnessing women's reproductive labour to reproduce empire.

And they are associated with Morning Star, who have stood solid on this.

The same Nigel Farage who thinks Andrew Tate is an important voice?
he’s way more dangerous than he’s given credit for

<sigh> www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gpnl0x3w3o

Farage said society was trying to "feminise" young men in a way that made the views of self-proclaimed misogynist influencer Andrew Tate more appealing to them.

But Farage stressed: "I'm not a Tate supporter. I'm identifying the truth, that young men feel that they're not allowed to be blokes."

It would be like someone accusing me of misogyny because I use terms like "bangmaid" and "wife appliance" on the Relationships board, failing to include the context that makes it clear that I'm describing how some men see their wives, not how I see them.

Sigh

he’s changed his views on this since the election campaign

And this

Men make sacrifices many women don't for top jobs, Farage says https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gpnl0x3w3o

That was the article I was quoting.

And yes, men do. They sacrifice time with their kids to work. Likewise, women sacrifice career progress to raise their kids. Under capitalism, parents have to make unpleasant choices. He is stating a fact, not endorsing it.

Missed my point, he wasn’t saying it was wrong either

all I want is a party who can champion women and not be massive bell ends truth be told