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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

"women who were born trans"

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MyAmpleSheep · 25/12/2025 11:44

I'm posting this not because I'm suggesting that we need to make counter-arguments in this place but because sometimes it's very hard to understand TRA positioning. This (sort-of) makes an interesting read. Anyway. It's from comments on you-know-where:

Women should not be made to use men's toilets just because they were born with a trans body.

People pretending that women who were born trans are somehow an invasion of privacy of women born cis are just dressing up their bigotry as something else.

So instead of male and female bodies, we need to get to grips with the ideas of cis bodies and trans bodies. And instead of women, and men who want to be women, we have women who were born cis and women who were born trans.

Just FYI.

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nebulousMoose · 02/01/2026 15:11

RavelsDancer · 02/01/2026 02:31

I don’t think enough women (and men, though they don’t seem to care) realise that TRA do not actually believe any of this.
They do not believe in all that garbage they are spouting, not one bit. It serves another purpose.

The purpose of the TG movement is to hurt women, to throw women and feminism back several decades. And that they have achieved.

It is absolutely unbearable.

I feel like I know too much about it now, having been blissfully ignorant of the matter until quite recently. I have found myself looking at people and thinking 'is that a man?' and then worrying about what I am thinking.

I cannot tell you how much I loathe the term 'cis'.

I remember talking to a friend of mine when her children were younger, maybe late teens at that time, and she told me that young people weren't bothered about sexuality or gender anymore. I thought oh well that's good ... then came the absolute madness of gender identity and pronouns and cis women.

Once, I made a comment (intended to be supportive) to a trans person who was moaning about something or other, and I said something about them discovering who they really are or their true self, which must've come over completely in the opposite way in which it was intended. Apparently those words were literal violence.

They weren't though, were they. Words can be violent, but they can't be violence.

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RavelsDancer · 02/01/2026 16:25

nebulousMoose · 02/01/2026 15:11

It is absolutely unbearable.

I feel like I know too much about it now, having been blissfully ignorant of the matter until quite recently. I have found myself looking at people and thinking 'is that a man?' and then worrying about what I am thinking.

I cannot tell you how much I loathe the term 'cis'.

I remember talking to a friend of mine when her children were younger, maybe late teens at that time, and she told me that young people weren't bothered about sexuality or gender anymore. I thought oh well that's good ... then came the absolute madness of gender identity and pronouns and cis women.

Once, I made a comment (intended to be supportive) to a trans person who was moaning about something or other, and I said something about them discovering who they really are or their true self, which must've come over completely in the opposite way in which it was intended. Apparently those words were literal violence.

They weren't though, were they. Words can be violent, but they can't be violence.

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No of course not. And sorry for the long reply I'm about to give, and for the stuff I'm about to spring on people, which is disturbing, so maybe don't read it. But it's all been out there forever, even on Wikipedia.

"Literal violence" is a phrase from the playbook. You have heard the Bingo Phrases before, "just trying to live their lives", "vulnerable minority", "inclusivity", "be kind" (meaning shut up), "reactionary thinking of GC women", "erasure", "trans genocide", and on and on.

As an American politician once said: Flood the Zone with Shit. In this case it's: Flood the English language with shit. Other languages around the world will pick it up, too. Use psychobabble, come up with new flowery verbiage, change the meaning of old words in the Oxford dictionary, pretend that you have always known that you are a woman, even though you know you're not, and that that's not the reason why dressing up as one gets you excited. Pretend "transitioning" is not a a reaction to some deep trauma, or to feeling rejected. Threaten suicidality if someone doesn't bend their knee. Sue them to hell, make them lose their jobs. It's one of the best tactics. The adapting of the language of the impaired, of those groups who were actually vulnerable, historically. So they can't use it properly anymore, but now the borrowers can.

None of this would be bothersome, though, not even the menstruation- or pregnancy miming, which is icky and strangely alien.

But if teenage males start feel "gender euphoria" from wearing their sister's underwear without her consent, and broadcast so on the internet, and are then applauded on Twitter by their literal father for their bravery,

if young girls insist on having their own, literal (here the word also fits) wombs surgically removed - I don't know, man, are people aware that this period in history right now will go down as the most psychotic, misogyny-wise, and the most medically scandalous? In 200 years, kids will briefly touch upon this subject in their history classes and they will chuckle and shake their heads before moving on, without sensing the underlying malignant evil that made itself present in the 21st century and that infected droves of people.

Since I'm on a rant (again, sorry), let me start the new year by concluding with something dark as well: The Transgender Movement used to be very heavily based on the "scientific findings" of Dr John Money, a paedophilic, sadistic man with a jovial and respectable veneer, who forced children (siblings; twin-boys) to mime sex acts upon each other, one as the "girl" and one as the boy. This drove them both to suicide in adulthood.

Lastly, I am also flabbergasted as to why people think straight women would want "girldick". They do not. A lot of women just want men, plain men.

Sorry Moose.

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