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US detransitioner suing medical professionals and clinic

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junipery · 22/12/2025 10:20

https://archive.ph/9GINX

An article in the Mail. I found the actual details of the case a bit vague but said to be the first of its kind in the US. Prisha’s quite active on X so users may recognise her.

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spannasaurus · 22/12/2025 10:45

Chloe Cole, another detransitioner, is also suing her provider. She was on testosterone at 13 and had a double mastectomy at 15

Oldandgreyer · 23/12/2025 14:41

It should make the whole of society weep that these people have been so damaged.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 23/12/2025 16:55

It's difficult to bring detransitioner lawsuits in the US. One reason is because there is a "statute of limitations" in many states which only allows e.g. 4 years to bring a lawsuit. So if you were put on testosterone or had your breasts removed as a teenager and you realise you want children mid-twenties then you (probably) can't sue. As I understand it this time limit was lifted in Prisha's state in 2025 and in August 2025 she was able to bring the case which was then rejected; this means the case can go to appeal where it will have more sweeping effects.

https://www.carolinajournal.com/detransitioners-fraud-claim-dismissed-malpractice-claim-still-blocked/

https://x.com/benryanwriter/status/1963023333189927291

https://www.independentwomen.com/2025/08/14/detransitioner-prisha-mosley-fights-to-revive-medical-malpractice-claim-in-lawsuit-poised-to-set-national-precedent/

The list of physical things that went wrong for her is horrific. It's also what I'd logically expect to happen because biology, and yet no health professional took any of it into account when they transitioned her.

Seriestwo · 26/12/2025 09:23

I’m amazed she was able to have a baby. What damage they did to here, it is grotesque that this is thought of as medicine.

nauticant · 26/12/2025 21:41

In addition to the statute of limitations problem, there'll be a defence available of "abiding by the best medical standards of the time". We know that there weren't really any standards in place at all, eg see WPATH, but it'll be useable by the defence. But trials where there's a jury, they might be able to cut through that and give the kind of award that will make insurers reassess their support for "gender affirming care".

PennyLaneisinmyheartandmysoul · 26/12/2025 21:46

I have mixed feelings about this suing stuff.
what was the detrans persons attitude to those who voiced concerns about their choices, some of those I’ve read about actively complained and ruined the careers and lives of professionals who weren’t yay cheerleading their plans.
I think the law suits should never be for monetary gain.

spannasaurus · 27/12/2025 00:50

PennyLaneisinmyheartandmysoul · 26/12/2025 21:46

I have mixed feelings about this suing stuff.
what was the detrans persons attitude to those who voiced concerns about their choices, some of those I’ve read about actively complained and ruined the careers and lives of professionals who weren’t yay cheerleading their plans.
I think the law suits should never be for monetary gain.

Chloe Cole was a child when professionals gave her testosterone and a double mastectomy. Whatever a child is saying the professionals should be doing their job and preventing harm.

NumbersGuy · 27/12/2025 06:35

Reading these cruxes for suing the physicians, this ADULT is the one who signed off on this path, based upon what they wanted. The quote "Then I had a shattering revelation - and now I'm suing the medical professionals who encouraged me." "Encouraged me" is what any mental health professional will do if that will help their patients feel normal. In fact, to be educated on the process, the person first must get a referral from a GP to an NHS Gender Dysphoria Clinic (GDC). The individual undergoes a detailed assessment period with a multidisciplinary team, completed over several months, to include multiple therapy sessions. Candidates for genital surgery must have a minimum of 12 continuous months of hormone therapy and successful full-time real-life experience in their affirmed gender role. This allows both the individual and the clinical team to ensure that social transition is sustainable and improves their quality of life. Finally, to also have a minimum of 12 continuous months of hormone therapy under medical supervision. For her to have decided after-the-fact "Oh I had a shattering revelation" so now he's trying to collect a hefty payday FOR HER DECISION! This would be no different than someone choosing to have a double mastectomy because they have the BRCA Gene (as Angelina Jolie did in 2013 and is also done for men as well, since they have this gene also), and then deciding they made a bad decision and was "forced into having it done." This woman signed tons of informed consent documents, went through a high number of professionals stating she would be happier being a male throughout the ENTIRE PROCESS, and it's highly unlikely anyone threatened her to go through with it. She made a bad choice and to avoid accountability, she says it's everyone else's fault. Again, mental health professionals are there to help their patients, not harm them, and there's too many checks and balances to not catch her not being of sound mental health because that would have been stopped at that point, to avoid situations like this. So no, there's not a cabal of medical professionals recruiting people to transition, because they spent too much time and money to get to their position.

NautilusLionfish · 27/12/2025 07:07

NumbersGuy · 27/12/2025 06:35

Reading these cruxes for suing the physicians, this ADULT is the one who signed off on this path, based upon what they wanted. The quote "Then I had a shattering revelation - and now I'm suing the medical professionals who encouraged me." "Encouraged me" is what any mental health professional will do if that will help their patients feel normal. In fact, to be educated on the process, the person first must get a referral from a GP to an NHS Gender Dysphoria Clinic (GDC). The individual undergoes a detailed assessment period with a multidisciplinary team, completed over several months, to include multiple therapy sessions. Candidates for genital surgery must have a minimum of 12 continuous months of hormone therapy and successful full-time real-life experience in their affirmed gender role. This allows both the individual and the clinical team to ensure that social transition is sustainable and improves their quality of life. Finally, to also have a minimum of 12 continuous months of hormone therapy under medical supervision. For her to have decided after-the-fact "Oh I had a shattering revelation" so now he's trying to collect a hefty payday FOR HER DECISION! This would be no different than someone choosing to have a double mastectomy because they have the BRCA Gene (as Angelina Jolie did in 2013 and is also done for men as well, since they have this gene also), and then deciding they made a bad decision and was "forced into having it done." This woman signed tons of informed consent documents, went through a high number of professionals stating she would be happier being a male throughout the ENTIRE PROCESS, and it's highly unlikely anyone threatened her to go through with it. She made a bad choice and to avoid accountability, she says it's everyone else's fault. Again, mental health professionals are there to help their patients, not harm them, and there's too many checks and balances to not catch her not being of sound mental health because that would have been stopped at that point, to avoid situations like this. So no, there's not a cabal of medical professionals recruiting people to transition, because they spent too much time and money to get to their position.

As a young teen, she had been sexually assaulted, had aneroxia and depression. Was socially transitioning at 15 ( surely a child?) and medically at 17. I would not be surprised if she didn't fully understand what she was signing. Also not sure how much if any counselling she had regarding her CSA, depression, aneroxia and medical transition.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 27/12/2025 07:17

Of course a child can't consent or realise the full implications, and a child with the very likely in every single case high comorbidities, shouldn't be treated with highly damaging, life changing, permanant, risky and sterilising/mutilating approaches.

They absolutely should be able to have legal redress against the adults that did this to them, the adults had a responsibility for child protection and the world should have the basic common sense not to do this to children. It cannot be a game of how many children's lives we destroy to make some of that number happy at the expense of others who will come to bitterly regret it. I am so very sick of this idea of a few precious trans people always worth the sacrifice of the non trans lesser people.

I hope she gets enough of a payout to make those adults pause in their crusade, and to live on if she is unable to be well enough to work or have the normal adult life that should have been her right. I wish that for every grown up kid left with heavy damage to live with.

NotBadConsidering · 27/12/2025 08:18

The issue is right there in the name: “gender affirming”. It is “gender affirming” care. They are “gender affirming” clinicians.

This means they will only ever affirm a patient’s desired “gender”.

Which means they only offer one treatment pathway.

Which means they don’t ever discuss whether it’s the right option, or even the possibility of other options.

If you go to a specialist who purports to be an expert in the problem you are presenting with, and only offer one treatment pathway and don’t tell the patient there are other pathways open, or shut down other pathways as options, you are potentially negligent.

This is the same for any medical speciality. It is especially relevant if the evidence for that treatment pathway is objectively poor.

If a back surgeon doesn’t inform a patient the evidence for surgery for back pain is poor and doesn’t inform them the option of other therapies like physiotherapy, they are potentially negligent.

If a brain surgeon offers surgery for invasive brain tumours promising a better life and doesn’t inform the patient that life could be better without surgery, they are potentially negligent.

And so on.

“Gender affirming” clinicians have told children and young adults only one thing: “affirming their gender” is the only thing they offer. They only offer social affirmation, hormone affirmation, surgical affirmation. They don’t inform the patient that they have other options, and they have never informed them the evidence is poor. In fact, they still pretend the evidence is good.

If they offered non-affirming care, like exploratory therapy, watchful waiting, caution, they wouldn’t call themselves “gender affirming” clinicians. Their negligence is right there in the name, because they are brazenly acknowledging they don’t allow other pathways. They deserve to be sued, and should also face their respective medical boards for disciplinary action too.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 27/12/2025 08:21

NumbersGuy · 27/12/2025 06:35

Reading these cruxes for suing the physicians, this ADULT is the one who signed off on this path, based upon what they wanted. The quote "Then I had a shattering revelation - and now I'm suing the medical professionals who encouraged me." "Encouraged me" is what any mental health professional will do if that will help their patients feel normal. In fact, to be educated on the process, the person first must get a referral from a GP to an NHS Gender Dysphoria Clinic (GDC). The individual undergoes a detailed assessment period with a multidisciplinary team, completed over several months, to include multiple therapy sessions. Candidates for genital surgery must have a minimum of 12 continuous months of hormone therapy and successful full-time real-life experience in their affirmed gender role. This allows both the individual and the clinical team to ensure that social transition is sustainable and improves their quality of life. Finally, to also have a minimum of 12 continuous months of hormone therapy under medical supervision. For her to have decided after-the-fact "Oh I had a shattering revelation" so now he's trying to collect a hefty payday FOR HER DECISION! This would be no different than someone choosing to have a double mastectomy because they have the BRCA Gene (as Angelina Jolie did in 2013 and is also done for men as well, since they have this gene also), and then deciding they made a bad decision and was "forced into having it done." This woman signed tons of informed consent documents, went through a high number of professionals stating she would be happier being a male throughout the ENTIRE PROCESS, and it's highly unlikely anyone threatened her to go through with it. She made a bad choice and to avoid accountability, she says it's everyone else's fault. Again, mental health professionals are there to help their patients, not harm them, and there's too many checks and balances to not catch her not being of sound mental health because that would have been stopped at that point, to avoid situations like this. So no, there's not a cabal of medical professionals recruiting people to transition, because they spent too much time and money to get to their position.

Both Prisha and Chloe would have had difficulty in getting "a referral from a GP to an NHS Gender Dysphoria Clinic (GDC)" as they are US citizens. I expect the facts of the cases will be considered by the courts, and at least some consideration given to their ages at the time of their treatments, and the actual [lack of] due process should also feed into the courts' decisions.

fromorbit · 27/12/2025 09:31

NumbersGuy · 27/12/2025 06:35

Reading these cruxes for suing the physicians, this ADULT is the one who signed off on this path, based upon what they wanted. The quote "Then I had a shattering revelation - and now I'm suing the medical professionals who encouraged me." "Encouraged me" is what any mental health professional will do if that will help their patients feel normal. In fact, to be educated on the process, the person first must get a referral from a GP to an NHS Gender Dysphoria Clinic (GDC). The individual undergoes a detailed assessment period with a multidisciplinary team, completed over several months, to include multiple therapy sessions. Candidates for genital surgery must have a minimum of 12 continuous months of hormone therapy and successful full-time real-life experience in their affirmed gender role. This allows both the individual and the clinical team to ensure that social transition is sustainable and improves their quality of life. Finally, to also have a minimum of 12 continuous months of hormone therapy under medical supervision. For her to have decided after-the-fact "Oh I had a shattering revelation" so now he's trying to collect a hefty payday FOR HER DECISION! This would be no different than someone choosing to have a double mastectomy because they have the BRCA Gene (as Angelina Jolie did in 2013 and is also done for men as well, since they have this gene also), and then deciding they made a bad decision and was "forced into having it done." This woman signed tons of informed consent documents, went through a high number of professionals stating she would be happier being a male throughout the ENTIRE PROCESS, and it's highly unlikely anyone threatened her to go through with it. She made a bad choice and to avoid accountability, she says it's everyone else's fault. Again, mental health professionals are there to help their patients, not harm them, and there's too many checks and balances to not catch her not being of sound mental health because that would have been stopped at that point, to avoid situations like this. So no, there's not a cabal of medical professionals recruiting people to transition, because they spent too much time and money to get to their position.

It is America with a profit driven health care system. The country that bought you the opioid epidemic which killed 100,000 plus people because it made the medical industry profit.

If you think that US medical industry doesn't skimp rules to give people medical treatments not in their best interests then you are very very naive. Some US Doctors have a long track record of profiting from "fixing" sexual minorities, unhappy and unwell people and making their lives worse with drugs and surgeries.

The evidence is mounting that this is the latest in a LONG line of medical scandals in the US based on profit not science. There is a wave of detrans cases coming, clinics are closing down because they know it was all lies.

Great article on what is happening
This should be concerning to anyone who cares about protecting vulnerable populations. As the HHS review observes, “Given the medical profession’s history of pathologizing and medicalizing same-sex attraction, serious justice-related concerns are raised by the overrepresentation of gay, lesbian, and bisexual adolescents among patients receiving unproven interventions that adversely impact fertility and sexual function.”

While it may sound jarring to readers who have, reasonably, deferred to U.S. medical societies and civil rights advocacy groups on this issue, there is no longer any legitimate scientific controversy about the weak evidence underlying the purported benefits of the “gender affirming” model for youth. Readers may also be surprised to learn that the first countries to restrict these practices were politically progressive Finland and Sweden, whose socialized health care systems are widely admired. It was these Scandinavian social democracies—not U.S. red states—that were first to conduct systematic reviews and conclude there is no reliable evidence supporting pediatric medical transition. Finland sharply restricted the practice in 2020, followed by Sweden in 2022. The U.K. was next, and other nations are pulling back, too.

The HHS review’s evidence analysis arrives at the same conclusion regarding the sorry state of the evidence. Weighing the purported benefits against the risks (which include not only infertility and sexual dysfunction but also decreased bone density, delayed cognitive development and inability to breastfeed after mastectomy) the review concludes that the harms of pediatric medical transition far outweigh the unproven mental health benefits.

Instead of medicalization, minors with serious gender-related discomfort should get less risky talk therapy and social support, not to force them to be gender-conforming, but to help manage distress. Kids should be supported in their identity exploration and self-expression and supported as they navigate their social lives. For minors convinced they want permanent bodily changes, therapists can be there to help them cope with the frustration of delaying permanent interventions until they are physically and psychologically mature enough to make such decisions as adults. Research suggests that for many minors with gender-related distress, this discomfort will resolve during the course of normal adolescent development.

Liberals Should Read the HHS Review of Pediatric ‘Gender Affirming’ Care | Opinion
https://www.newsweek.com/liberals-should-read-the-hhs-review-of-pediatric-gender-affirming-care-opinion-11273400

The science is reflecting the truth. As has happened many times before a bunch of medical scam artists created a way to profit from misery. The only thing they cared about was money. They are going to get sued now.

Liberals Should Read the HHS Review of Pediatric ‘Gender Affirming’ Care | Opinion - Newsweek featured image

Liberals Should Read the HHS Review of Pediatric ‘Gender Affirming’ Care | Opinion

Conservatives and liberals alike can agree that all people, and especially children, deserve ethical, evidence-based care.

https://www.newsweek.com/liberals-should-read-the-hhs-review-of-pediatric-gender-affirming-care-opinion-11273400

fromorbit · 27/12/2025 09:44

There is also the Soren Aldaco case in Texas which will be heard early next year which has got round the time limits for suits;

Texas Supreme Court Agrees to Hear ‘Detransitioner’ Case Against Healthcare Provider, Counselors Involved in Procedures
The Texas Second Court of Appeals had affirmed a prior judgement ruling her claims time-barred.

https://archive.is/ScD6e

NotBadConsidering · 27/12/2025 09:46

Lawyer: you practise so called “gender affirming care” is that correct?

”Gender affirming” doctor: correct.

L: do you offer any other care for gender distressed children/young people?

GAD: no

L: did you tell my client other options exist to treat their distress?

GAD: no

L: did you tell my client the evidence for the treatments you offered is contentious?

GAD: no

L: did you tell my client that other clinicians exist who offer different treatment pathways?

GAD: no

L: you know that other options exist, the evidence is contentious, and other clinicians offer different treatment pathways, don’t you?

GAD: yes

L: so why didn’t you inform my client of these things make sure they were fully consented to what they were considering and what you were offering?

GAD:……….

RoyalCorgi · 27/12/2025 13:18

The other reason it's hard for detransitioners to sue in the US is that some gender doctors (most notably the monstrous Dr Sidhbh Gallagher, who boasts of "yeeting the teets") don't take out medical malpractice insurance. This means it's pointless to sue them, because they won't be able to pay out much in the way of damages.

OldCrone · 27/12/2025 14:12

RoyalCorgi · 27/12/2025 13:18

The other reason it's hard for detransitioners to sue in the US is that some gender doctors (most notably the monstrous Dr Sidhbh Gallagher, who boasts of "yeeting the teets") don't take out medical malpractice insurance. This means it's pointless to sue them, because they won't be able to pay out much in the way of damages.

It's pointless if your aim is to get a big payout, but is it completely pointless in terms of bankrupting the rogue doctors, and affecting their ability to do more harm? Could a doctor who has been sued for malpractice be struck off?

DrBlackbird · 27/12/2025 20:54

The judge dismissed all fraud and conspiracy claims and ruled that her medical malpractice claim is not revivable under the new statute, even with the extended timeline.

On what grounds I wonder? The only thing to slow the onslaught of mutilating children is a sufficient number of law suits with big payouts. But it’s not going to happen if judges are all like whatshisname in SP’s employment tribunal. And there’s a good chance of captured bekind Judiciary. It’ll have to be in front of an ordinary jury.

Btw lol at This would be no different than someone choosing to have a double mastectomy because they have the BRCA Gene Is this poster a surgeon or married to one by any chance?

Oldandgreyer · 27/12/2025 20:58

One successful suing us the end of any medical treatments. Surely if one person changes their mind after life changing body defacing and destructive surgery then we should respectfully ask all surgeons to stop. How do we know the pressure surgery assessment is rigourous enough?

First direct no harm.

fromorbit · 02/01/2026 02:51

Useful list of 28 US detrans law suits.

Benjamin Ryan
There are about 28 known detransitioner civil suits. The first to go to trial will start next week in New York State; I will be covering that trial. The second to go to trial will start in a couple of weeks, in Portland, Ore. Here is a spreadsheet I made of all the trials. The ages at which people were treated range from about 12 to 30 years old. Perhaps half of them concern minors at the start of treatment or surgery, the other young adults. There are probably a few other suits that remain under the radar. And new ones will surely be filed. If there are early victories, this could lead to a deluge of suits. Right now, most attorneys are playing it safe and waiting to see if this is a profitable venture. A lot of the cases have run into statute of limitation barriers, but most of those cases will go to an appeal. The suits have all been filed since August 2022.
https://nitter.net/benryanwriter/status/2006816650541072612

1984Now · 03/01/2026 10:25

NumbersGuy · 27/12/2025 06:35

Reading these cruxes for suing the physicians, this ADULT is the one who signed off on this path, based upon what they wanted. The quote "Then I had a shattering revelation - and now I'm suing the medical professionals who encouraged me." "Encouraged me" is what any mental health professional will do if that will help their patients feel normal. In fact, to be educated on the process, the person first must get a referral from a GP to an NHS Gender Dysphoria Clinic (GDC). The individual undergoes a detailed assessment period with a multidisciplinary team, completed over several months, to include multiple therapy sessions. Candidates for genital surgery must have a minimum of 12 continuous months of hormone therapy and successful full-time real-life experience in their affirmed gender role. This allows both the individual and the clinical team to ensure that social transition is sustainable and improves their quality of life. Finally, to also have a minimum of 12 continuous months of hormone therapy under medical supervision. For her to have decided after-the-fact "Oh I had a shattering revelation" so now he's trying to collect a hefty payday FOR HER DECISION! This would be no different than someone choosing to have a double mastectomy because they have the BRCA Gene (as Angelina Jolie did in 2013 and is also done for men as well, since they have this gene also), and then deciding they made a bad decision and was "forced into having it done." This woman signed tons of informed consent documents, went through a high number of professionals stating she would be happier being a male throughout the ENTIRE PROCESS, and it's highly unlikely anyone threatened her to go through with it. She made a bad choice and to avoid accountability, she says it's everyone else's fault. Again, mental health professionals are there to help their patients, not harm them, and there's too many checks and balances to not catch her not being of sound mental health because that would have been stopped at that point, to avoid situations like this. So no, there's not a cabal of medical professionals recruiting people to transition, because they spent too much time and money to get to their position.

No medical professional encourages an anorexic patient by succumbing to their requests for less food.
No medical professional succumbs to a young rugby player who insists to be put in a situation of continued major head injuries.
If there's any encouraging to do, it should be by medical professionals encouraging unhappy youth to seek proper therapy and counseling, not encouraging paths that lead to irreversible damage.

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