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The next generation of girls will be better protected from violence and young boys steered away from harmful misogynistic influences - Government announcement

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IwantToRetire · 18/12/2025 18:12

The plans unveiled today will focus on prevention and tackling the root causes of abuse, and come as the latest stats show that nearly 40% of teenagers in relationships are a victim of relationship abuse and over 40% of young men hold a positive view of Andrew Tate.

Under the £20 million package, teachers and families will be empowered to address these harmful attitudes and behaviours head on, with young people taught to identify positive role models and challenge unhealthy myths about women and relationships.

This is just one part of the government’s strategy to tackle violence against women and girls, deploying the full power of the state in the largest crackdown on violence against women and girls in British history.

Teachers will get specialist training on how to talk to pupils about issues like consent and the dangers of sharing intimate images, with experts brought in to pilot new approaches. This will be backed by pioneering research identifying the most effective way of teaching young people these crucial lessons.

Full statement https://www.gov.uk/government/news/vawg-strategy-to-better-protect-children-from-misogyny-and-abuse

There are 5 different "stratergies" available to download at https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/freedom-from-violence-and-abuse-a-cross-government-strategy

VAWG strategy to better protect children from misogyny and abuse

Violence against women and girls (VAWG) strategy will focus on healthy relationships and consent, and tackle relationship abuse through a new helpline.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/vawg-strategy-to-better-protect-children-from-misogyny-and-abuse

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rubyslippers · 18/12/2025 18:16

Well our own prime minister can’t define what a woman is, so there’s that

LlynTegid · 18/12/2025 18:19

Better than nothing but a lot more needs to be done. Teachers face misogyny from some dads, as an example.

MarvellousMonsters · 18/12/2025 18:19

It’s a nice idea

Pieceofpurplesky · 18/12/2025 18:21

Misogyny is rife in schools and getting worse. Long time teacher.

TheAutumnCrow · 18/12/2025 18:29

And then you see the school toilets & showers nightmare (eg the Brighton saga unfolding on this very board) and you think, this government has got to be having a larf.

Bluebootsgreenboots · 18/12/2025 18:30

LlynTegid · 18/12/2025 18:19

Better than nothing but a lot more needs to be done. Teachers face misogyny from some dads, as an example.

I had that just yesterday. It’s so pervasive I don’t know how you stamp it out.

PassTheHanky · 18/12/2025 18:32

Well they help start by issuing the EHRC guidance and keeping men and boys out of women's single sex spaces

PassTheHanky · 18/12/2025 18:33

typo ..... should say "they can start by issuing....."

Naala · 18/12/2025 18:35

Why are teachers supposed to solve this, like everything else. Disrespectful boys are brought up that way and their female peers and teachers bear the brunt.

BreakingBroken · 18/12/2025 18:35

meanwhile doing what to help the self esteem of young men, many of whom have few role models.
sports icon's need much much better behavioral contracts, zero tolerance to partner abuse and upping the standards on personal life when you are fully in the spotlight.
the payment of child maintenance needs fucking teeth...men in canada don't get away with the shit i read on here.
so maybe start with the misogyny in government.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 18/12/2025 18:36

TheAutumnCrow · 18/12/2025 18:29

And then you see the school toilets & showers nightmare (eg the Brighton saga unfolding on this very board) and you think, this government has got to be having a larf.

This! I sound like a cracked record on this but yet again, you can't defend what you cannot define. This government like the one before it continues to collude with the idea that the definition of women and girls also includes men & boys with 'woman & girl' feelings. On that basis girls and women are gaslit into accepting boys and men into their spaces and bullied/abused/harrassed for wanting single sex spaces.

so little do government institutions and public bodies think of women and girls that they believe, or profess to believe, that womanhood and girl hood is something that be acquired by males putting on a skirt and growing their hair

the fact that the government can't, or Indeed won't, join the dots means I have 0 faith in them

parietal · 18/12/2025 18:36

i think it is a positive that the government is recognizing that misogyny is a big problem and trying to do something about it. we don't know if this will really work, but at least it is a start.

G365 · 18/12/2025 18:38

Needs to start long before school age. Some children will have been exposed to misogynistic behaviour in the home before reaching school age. I feel sorry for Teachers having to take on yet another role.

Imnobody4 · 18/12/2025 18:42

Heard Julie Bindel on Times Radio this afternoon. She's underwhelmed and so am I.

Meadowfinch · 18/12/2025 18:43

If it works, then great. It has to be worth a try.

But the govt needs to look at the police approach to investigating VAWG, now not in 2029. They need to weed out the abusers in the police forces now.

And they need to deal with the South Asian rape gangs in London, openly, regardless of what Sadiq Khan wants.

Until they do that, their commitment to the safety of women and girls means nothing.

IwantToRetire · 18/12/2025 18:46

I agree with PP.

It should start long before school. And despite the influence from socila media, what happens at home is often the problem. At least 2 well know men who dont have a good reputation in their treatment of women talk about seeing pornorgraphy at home (their dads) from a really young age.

Let alone assuming teachers has the time and expertise to do this.

Will admit I haven't read the actually papers detailing different strands of the campaign, but even having this as an outline is the statement announcing this, makes me feel they are just adding another tick list.

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selffellatingouroborosofhate · 18/12/2025 19:44

If the Govt were serious about ending "VAWG":

  • They'd acknowledge that women and girls are female, that men and boys are male, and that male violence is a sex-linked offending pattern.
  • They'd acknowledge that school interventions are too little, too late, and they'd increase the ability of mothers to leave abusive men.
  • They'd recognise how abusive fathers use the family courts to continue abusing mothers and they'd prioritise maternal safety over paternal access to children.
  • They'd acknowledge that mixed-sex schools are second only to the home as places where girls are abused. They'd recognise that single-sex schools are safest for girls and make all schools single-sex from the age of eight.
  • They would pass a statutory interpretation act to make female, woman, and girl refer to biological sex in all legislation.
  • They would repeal the GRA, or at least amend it to make it clear that it is purely an administrative change with no impact on which single-sex space you use.
  • They would make toilets, changing rooms, and showers single-sex apart from accessible ones, and amend Document T to ban floor-to-ceiling cubicle partitions and doors in toilets and showers.
  • They'd call it MVAWG, male violence against women and girls. "VAWG" makes it sound like no one knows who perpetrates it, or it's some kind of act of God, similar to a flood, that no one is to blame for.
PeppercornMill · 18/12/2025 20:30

I find it utterly bizarre that the government are funding £16m for this and require philanthropists to fund the other £4m, one day after they discovered £570m to pay for one year of Erasmus. Not really a positive message to send out that they can't be bothered to fund the full £20m.

Helleofabore · 18/12/2025 20:32

How do you teach ‘consent’ while making policies that lower boundaries and negate consent about who accesses single sex provisions?

Swamphag · 18/12/2025 20:32

@selffellatingouroborosofhate 👏👏👏

We all know though it wouldn't be MVAWG because you'd always have to have caveat that it's "not all men" just in case any of the sensitive chaps got upset So we'd end up with M(BNAM)VAWG
And then it would have to be acknowledged that some women are also violent because women aren't even allowed to have victim hood to ourselves. So then we'd have M(BNAM)VAWG(BSWAAV). It's a bit of a mouthful.

Honestly it's amazing to me that men are so adept at shoehorning themselves into every possible situation yet when it comes to VAWG it's nothing to do with them 🤷

Artmumcreative · 18/12/2025 20:38

Theeyeballsinthesky · 18/12/2025 18:36

This! I sound like a cracked record on this but yet again, you can't defend what you cannot define. This government like the one before it continues to collude with the idea that the definition of women and girls also includes men & boys with 'woman & girl' feelings. On that basis girls and women are gaslit into accepting boys and men into their spaces and bullied/abused/harrassed for wanting single sex spaces.

so little do government institutions and public bodies think of women and girls that they believe, or profess to believe, that womanhood and girl hood is something that be acquired by males putting on a skirt and growing their hair

the fact that the government can't, or Indeed won't, join the dots means I have 0 faith in them

But they also support women transitioning to live as men, right?

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 18/12/2025 20:50

Swamphag · 18/12/2025 20:32

@selffellatingouroborosofhate 👏👏👏

We all know though it wouldn't be MVAWG because you'd always have to have caveat that it's "not all men" just in case any of the sensitive chaps got upset So we'd end up with M(BNAM)VAWG
And then it would have to be acknowledged that some women are also violent because women aren't even allowed to have victim hood to ourselves. So then we'd have M(BNAM)VAWG(BSWAAV). It's a bit of a mouthful.

Honestly it's amazing to me that men are so adept at shoehorning themselves into every possible situation yet when it comes to VAWG it's nothing to do with them 🤷

If male violence was lowered to the same rate as female violence, the overall rate of violent offending would fall by at least three-quarters.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 18/12/2025 20:52

Artmumcreative · 18/12/2025 20:38

But they also support women transitioning to live as men, right?

They do and that's another reason I have no faith in the government

the Levy report published today has evidenced that what we knew i.e. the majority of ppl seeking to transition are now young women and honestly given the widespread misogyny they face in a porn soaked society I understand why so many of them are so sadly desperate to "identify" out of womanhood. Yet the government seems not to join the dots between schools being awash with porn, increasing misogyny amongst boys and a massive increase in young women seeking to transition

IwantToRetire · 18/12/2025 20:57

To put it bluntly why is it called Violence Against Women and Girls

Why isn't it the End Male Violence campaign.

It's allmost victims blaming to have the focus on women, only after they become victims or survivors of male voilence.

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parietal · 18/12/2025 21:32

A campaign called 'End Male Violence' would be like a campaign called 'Stop Crime' - so broad as to be useless in practice.

This is about a specific type of male violence, and it makes sense to focus on misogyny as the root issue

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