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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Why transmedicalism is bad: article

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MyAmpleSheep · 12/12/2025 01:57

Article by a trans-identifying man about why it’s a bad idea to permit access to sexed facilities based on how far down an arbitrary path of transition an individual has progressed.

I agree with much of what he says. The takeaway is obviously different though: for me the “and therefore.. ” is that “and therefore, all trans identifying people should use the correct facilities for their sex.”

https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2025/12/11/ehrc-ban-on-trans-people/

EHRC trans ban: arguing over who is a 'true trans' won't save us

The EHCR ban of trans women fails to comprehend that being trans does NOT depend on surgery or the arbitrary standards set by others

https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2025/12/11/ehrc-ban-on-trans-people/

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Seethlaw · 12/12/2025 08:01

The takeaway is obviously different though: for me the “and therefore.. ” is that “and therefore, all trans identifying people should use the correct facilities for their sex.”

Indeed. After all, that's the only way to treat all trans people the same way, isn't it? For example, non-binary people don't identify as either gender, so where should they go? They can't use either male or female facilities, since they don't identify as such, so they have nowhere to go! Same with agender people, who identify as having no gender, and thus cannot go anywhere either. Arguing that trans people should use the facilities which correspond to their gender is discriminating against some trans people, which this person says shouldn't happen:

"However, the answer to that — as trans people and allies — cannot be to start throwing each other under the bus. If one portion of the community gets to keep their rights but everyone else lost them, that’s a loss for all of my trans siblings."

Well, mate, that's exactly what you're doing by arguing that people should be free to use the facilities corresponding to their gender!

The only way to treat all trans people the same, is to have them use the facilities corresponding to their sex, because every trans person has an immutable sex, which was observed (not assigned) at birth.

deadpan · 12/12/2025 10:10

We've always known some Dr's have a god complex, but this is throwing the doors wide open to surgery that should NOT take place.
There are cosmetic procedures and then theres full on orthopedic procedures that could render the person a lifetime patient. All for a psychological condition.
Yes I know surgeons practice on cadavers, but they can't tell the surgeon what side effects they'd have if they were living. Why is any of this ok

Why transmedicalism is bad: article
dairydebris · 12/12/2025 10:13

deadpan · 12/12/2025 10:10

We've always known some Dr's have a god complex, but this is throwing the doors wide open to surgery that should NOT take place.
There are cosmetic procedures and then theres full on orthopedic procedures that could render the person a lifetime patient. All for a psychological condition.
Yes I know surgeons practice on cadavers, but they can't tell the surgeon what side effects they'd have if they were living. Why is any of this ok

This cant be real surely?

Imnobody4 · 12/12/2025 10:42

dairydebris · 12/12/2025 10:13

This cant be real surely?

It is. I saw this yesterday and went down the rabbit hole of Mengele wannabes advertising their services. There needs to be an investigation of cosmetic surgery.

deadpan · 12/12/2025 10:52

@Imnobody4 @dairydebris I was hoping it was but sadly nothing surprises me especially in the US where they seem to treat living people as an experiment

CassOle · 12/12/2025 11:16

I agree that Mengele (and the surgeons of Unit 731) would have been right at home in the field of 'gender affirming surgery'.

RareGoalsVerge · 12/12/2025 18:02

Really interesting article and yes I 100% agree that transmedicalism is bad, that no one's access to spaces and rights should depend on the surgery they can undergo or afford, the chemicals they are willing to ingest or inject, or in any other way the amount of expense or effort they are able to go to. Which is exactly why there cannot be any inclusion of male-people-who-wish-they-were-female in female single-sex spaces/ facilities/ opportunities. There is no rational way to draw a line, you either have to include every single male person (so it's a mixed sex thing accessible to everyone) or you have to exclude every single male person, regardless of their gender identity. It's bleeding obvious that "any male who wants it" (which is the only condition that would allow in all transwomen without transmedicalism) is indistinguishable legally and practically from being fully mixed sex. There are many single-sex things that could certainly re-examine whether there is still a need for them to be single-sex, and if there isn't a further need they can become mixed sex. Certainly where things are divided by sex, providers should have an obligation to take proportionate steps to ensure that there is some gender-neutral third option for people who aren't comfortable identifying with their sex. Some things will always be needed as single-sex for situations where no amount of fighting sexism will ever completely eliminate the effects that having a female body has on female people, regardless of their gender identity

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