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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 25/11/2025 20:40

Thanks for the link, well done her, I'm so glad someone is bring up in parliament that the government is failing to apply the laws of the land.

It's now part of the official government record, the government is putting women who have been convicted of a crime in harm's way, which is another law they are breaking.

Thanks to Rebecca Paul for speaking in parliament about this and for Rosie's and Jim Shannon's input.

Catiette · 25/11/2025 21:00

Thank you for posting. And to the three speakers.

Heggettypeg · 25/11/2025 21:32

A good speech. Who was the disgruntled person opposite?

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 25/11/2025 21:42

Well done Rebecca

I had to stop watching however due to the other women wittering about 'it's not TiMs' (not mentioning Karen White, Isla Bryson et al, their point being don't look, pretend THOSE men are sweet little harmless angels) and dragging the conversation to anything at ALL that means those imprisoned women are stuck with men they cannot escape in what legally should be a single sex space.

I would be deleted if I said what I thought of those women.

The needs of those men CAN be met without those privileged muppets sacrificing much less privileged women to them in order to feel righteously self satisified and get good girl cookies from men. We are fucked in this because those absolute melts are going to shout down and witter at every sane voice.

GCAcademic · 25/11/2025 22:10

I love that she replaced Crispin Blunt as the MP for Reigate after his ignominious departure from public life. Crispin must be spinning in his political grave. 😂

KittyHigham · 25/11/2025 22:17

GCAcademic · 25/11/2025 22:10

I love that she replaced Crispin Blunt as the MP for Reigate after his ignominious departure from public life. Crispin must be spinning in his political grave. 😂

I was about to post this!
He was an odious man with dangerous behaviours and beliefs.

KittyHigham · 25/11/2025 22:19

Sadly he still is, no doubt. My past tense was in reference to his status as MP.

UtopiaPlanitia · 26/11/2025 03:06

WarriorN · 25/11/2025 19:01

https://x.com/hartleythinking/status/1993104543668998159?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

i couldn’t see another thread; apologies if there was one.

im absolutely appalled that this is still occurring

I was thoroughly impressed with her speech (not impressed with the behaviour of the Labour Minister at the despatch box 🙄). I'm so glad to see an MP taking up this issue and pushing the Govt to do something to remedy the disastrous policy.

WarriorN · 26/11/2025 05:17

In the next tweet you can see the response and it’s worth watching to learn what the interventions were.

the point was made that no prisoners have been placed there under labour. So technically Tory decisions

at same time there’s a distinct lack of concern.

no idea who the woman is as who tries to intervene; her points were more around high levels of vulnerability of women being more of an issue

a stat that transwomen are higher risk of sexual assault in jail was also trotted out - that’s as maybe but still doesn’t mean they can go in with the women

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WarriorN · 26/11/2025 05:19

Basically there are still males in women’s jails as no one has moved them.

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EmpressaurusKitty · 26/11/2025 05:31

I was in the public gallery at the time. Rebecca was fantastic.

The whatabouters on the Labour bench were awful.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 26/11/2025 06:37

WarriorN · 26/11/2025 05:17

In the next tweet you can see the response and it’s worth watching to learn what the interventions were.

the point was made that no prisoners have been placed there under labour. So technically Tory decisions

at same time there’s a distinct lack of concern.

no idea who the woman is as who tries to intervene; her points were more around high levels of vulnerability of women being more of an issue

a stat that transwomen are higher risk of sexual assault in jail was also trotted out - that’s as maybe but still doesn’t mean they can go in with the women

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Infuriating, the political class has been doing it for decades, it was the other lot not us, we're squeaky clean.
They're in power now so they're the ones breaking the law now, not the other lot.
If the government doesn't respect the laws why should the people.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 26/11/2025 08:02

It's the script my Labour MP parrots every time I contact him.

First: the most important thing about anything regarding women is men, and respecting men. (He's never defined what 'respect' means, but put the word women in any contact to him and he will immediately go into the 'respect the men' chorus and avoid ever mentioning the other 52% of the population or addressing mentioned issues for them at all.)

Second: Labour are great, everything they think and do is great and perfect, yay Labour. (Ignoring all questions or evidence: the flag is flapped as if that's the answer.)

Third: Anything that Labour could be blamed for was definitely done by a bigger boy who ran away.

If I asked him what the time was I would get this drivel.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 26/11/2025 08:06

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 26/11/2025 06:37

Infuriating, the political class has been doing it for decades, it was the other lot not us, we're squeaky clean.
They're in power now so they're the ones breaking the law now, not the other lot.
If the government doesn't respect the laws why should the people.

Quite.

If the law is optional and a matter of personal choice and conscience then ok, there's a few I can think of that I'd rather not be buggered with.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 26/11/2025 08:19

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 26/11/2025 08:02

It's the script my Labour MP parrots every time I contact him.

First: the most important thing about anything regarding women is men, and respecting men. (He's never defined what 'respect' means, but put the word women in any contact to him and he will immediately go into the 'respect the men' chorus and avoid ever mentioning the other 52% of the population or addressing mentioned issues for them at all.)

Second: Labour are great, everything they think and do is great and perfect, yay Labour. (Ignoring all questions or evidence: the flag is flapped as if that's the answer.)

Third: Anything that Labour could be blamed for was definitely done by a bigger boy who ran away.

If I asked him what the time was I would get this drivel.

Sounds exactly like mine, either we from the same area or the Labour Party machine has been churning out clones for us to vote for or the party produces a script that everyone must read off. 🤬

RoyalCorgi · 26/11/2025 09:22

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 26/11/2025 08:06

Quite.

If the law is optional and a matter of personal choice and conscience then ok, there's a few I can think of that I'd rather not be buggered with.

Yep. This is what I don't understand about this debate - why is it suddenly the case that following the law is optional? The law is clear and settled on the issue of single-sex spaces: it was laid out explicitly and unequivocally in the Supreme Court judgement in April. I don't get why this debate is even happening.

DrBlackbird · 26/11/2025 09:29

EmpressaurusKitty · 26/11/2025 05:31

I was in the public gallery at the time. Rebecca was fantastic.

The whatabouters on the Labour bench were awful.

Doesn’t look like many MPs were particularly moved to be present. Not fussed or not inclined to listen to any reality that disputes their own bekind narrative.

EmpressaurusKitty · 26/11/2025 10:20

DrBlackbird · 26/11/2025 09:29

Doesn’t look like many MPs were particularly moved to be present. Not fussed or not inclined to listen to any reality that disputes their own bekind narrative.

It was meant to start at 10pm & was about an hour late because the thing before it ran over, which didn’t help.

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