Morgan Geyser, the so called "Slenderman killer" is a trans man so why is EVERY media outlet misgendering him?

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If a man dressed as a woman commits a crime, he is a woman, because he says so.
But a woman dressed as a man is always a woman?
How do they make sense of this?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/37414721/slender-man-stabber-morgan-geyser-missing/
www.fox13seattle.com/news/slender-man-stabbing-morgan-geyser-release-010925

I admire your confidence that there is any sense to be had in this ideological binfire, but women are always to blame regardless. We're still paying penance for that business with the snake and an apple.

It's worth complaining to the Sun that they have double standards on this issue - if you can find a recent example of them using gender identity rather than sex for a trans identified man. Maybe they've decided to use accurate sex in all reports from now on? Let's hope so.

I’ve seen this double standard many times before. They will always go for the salacious angle, ie a “woman” did it, whether a woman pretending to be a man, a man pretending to be a woman, or just a woman.

This person doesn't qualify as human I don't care what people call the murderer 😡

I've seen the man who's left Strictly being she/her'd. I thought he was a drag queen. I've no interest real interest in the programme but I've seen nothing describing him as a 'transwoman'. I also saw the female pronouns used for this girl, but thought from the picture coupled with the likely mental problems that she would have a trans identity.

So a man who cross dresses for a living is misgendered, according to gender ideology, but so is a woman who 'genuinely' claims to be trans.

There's no rhyme or reason with this ideology. It beclowns its followers.

Eta AFAIK the child who was attacked thankfully survived although gravely injured.

'Geyser'? Nominative determinism? Just a short step from Blokey McBlokeface.

@Lovelyview Morgan is also a woman in the Guardian, they always observe preferred pronouns of male criminals: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/23/wisconsin-woman-missing-slender-man-stabbing

@lcakethereforeIam the drag Queen situation is bizarre. I was at a pub in Manchester and a drag queen lost his temper with a man who pointed out the women's loos to him and said "What part of THIS do you think belongs in THERE dear" - it was hilarious 😂

There isnt any rhyme or reason for the ideology but just in terms of your example, it depends if you're talking about the character or the performer
He hasnt said he is trans as far as I know and he is a he.
His character is a female, like Dame Edna or Lily Savage, they're just characters who are shes

@soupyspoon I see what you're getting at.

It's part of the ideology to highlight women's crimes as being committed by women as well as men's crimes being committed by women.
Therefore it can be said "look, women commit violent crimes... They're dangerous too...... There's not much difference between men and women" etc etc
More justification for the eradication of single sex spaces.

Neither article I read about Morgan Geyser said anything about Morgan being trans - interesting. One of them said something along the lines of 'who was imprisoned for the crime committed as a girl of [age]'.

I think with drag queens we need to be clear whether they are in character or not, and whether or not the presenters are playing along with the character or observing his character neutrally.

If a drag queen is on Strictly (I don't watch it so don't know how they play it) then presumably it is perfectly possible that the man is in character whilst dancing on the show (in which case he or she might be appropriate whilst he dances), or they are in character from the very first time they met their partner, all through rehearsals, performing, and chatting after performances.

But if we are to call men "she" it should ONLY EVER HAPPEN when we are referring to the character that a man is playing, and never to respect a man's claim that he is not a man.

I had a social media argument with the Liverpool Echo about this very double standard. In the male case they had solemnly quoted the IPSO guidance 🤪

Isn't Morgan Geyser a trans man though, so actually female? I remember the case originally, and it was two girls arrested for stabbing another girl.

A quick google has also just suggested that shes a trans-man rather than a trans woman.

Edit: Ignore me, just re-read the OP and can see thats what you're getting at. Comprehension fail over here!

I know this. Thats more or less what I just said.

He plays a character who dances on strictly. When he is not in character he is just him, the performer.

I caught the end of Strictly and I think the professional dancer said that the drag queen was "Chris" 5 days a week and the drag name at the weekends.

Yes, she’s evil. I can’t understand why she’s being released. She was supposed to locked up for 40 years! The DM has a picture she drew recently. It’s horrible and in no way suggests she’s a well-adjusted adult. Hopefully her escape means she’s locked up somewhere secure for the decades of her sentence that remain.

Sorry if I came across as patronizing - not my intention, I was just trying to expand on what you said.

Click bait innit.

World is bored of male crimes cos there's so many. "Woman killer / rapist/ attacker" is always going to garner more interest. Transmen are very much men when they give birth, for the same logic.

All the reports where male criminals with trans IDs are referred to as female do rather draw attention to them though. It's been fascinating to witness that, for trans allies, the identity validation is more important than the negative associations of trans with male pattern criminality, or the possibly that any old violent dude is claiming a trans ID for nefarious purpose.

Because male feelings always matter more than women's lives.

@Instructions so very true!

OP, the Fox article seems a bit mixed actually. I think they can't make their/his/her/ minds up. One count of "woman", two of "he/his", one of "their", one of "transgender man". The link embedded in my quotes goes with "woman"/"she/her" throughout as far as I can see.

Now, they call Geyser a "bright young woman" who is no longer a danger.
Therapists said he was sexually abused as a child.
Geyser withdrew their first two petitions. Waukesha County Circuit Court Judge Michael Bohren denied his third request, saying Geyser remained a risk to the public.

@SwirlyGates I agree it is very muddled, this is what google ai states:
Background and Recent Events

• Gender Identity Diagnosed with gender dysphoria, medical professionals have stated that Geyser's gender identity is an ongoing and genuine process, unrelated to underlying mental illness or psychosis. He uses male pronouns and has requested staff do the same.
• Slender Man Stabbing In 2014, at age 12, Geyser and a friend stabbed a classmate 19 times to appease the fictional character "Slender Man". The victim survived. Geyser was found not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect and committed to the Winnebago Mental Health Institute.
• Conditional Release In January 2025, a judge granted Geyser conditional release from the facility, with doctors testifying he was no longer a danger and had been off anti-psychotic medications for years.
• Recent Disappearance On Sunday, November 23, 2025, Geyser, now 23, cut off his GPS monitoring anklet and left his group home in Wisconsin. He was apprehended later that day in Illinois. Police had issued a public notice asking people not to approach him if spotted.

But I cannot find further refs other than to court docs.

La Voix (Strictly drag queen) seems quite old school Danny La Rue etc type. He was seen on the show both as himself (Chris) and as the character, not claiming to actually be a woman at all. But I've seen people getting very het up about others "misgendering" him when he's in costume, which is just weird.

Ok got you now.