Break it down for me? 2 - General Break it Down archive thread

[Helleofabore]

I am creating this thread as an archive thread just for all the important sources of information that we read and want to keep. With the option for saving threads so we can find them easily, I figure it is a good way to gather specific types of information into one place.

Please post studies, papers, media articles that pull together references, or informative articles, tweets, videos, and interviews. Only on the topic of Sex & Gender.

It would be helpful if you could please post with a summary of the article, study, papers, etc so people can also use Advanced Search to locate the information and it will make it easier to read through to find the information again too. Also, and this is just a thought, I have found putting a bolded sentence at the top to make it really clear what the post is about works well for scrolling through to find the posts that people might be looking for specifically.

I don't want to be the thread police, but ask that we keep this free of discussion. Getting into discussion on this thread will mean it will fill up quickly and not serve the purpose of being simply an archive.

If you post things on this thread that might be useful on other specific archive threads, then feel free to post them there or someone else might do this too.

Can I ask that if you want to discuss something you see here, you start a thread to do so and link and refer to a post on this thread? If a post has been presented with commentary that people disagree with, can that be discussed on a new thread please.

Keep this thread free just for the information.

Here is the previous Break it down for me thread?

The specific archive threads are:

Save female sports evidence thread
Statistics & poll evidence archive thread
Medical treatment archive thread
It will never happen - resource thread
Court cases/Judicial Reviews/ET/ETAs

Thank you.

Edited by MNHQ at OP's request

Just a reminder of this resource of the list of male criminals in female prison. In the USA.

notourcrimes.info/prison-data.html

ANOTHER ANALYSIS OF HOW DIFFERENT EMOTIONALLY MANIPULATIVE ARGUMENTS WORK.

Another video that analyses the arguments used that we so often see. Often they are in the same post or in subsequent posts.

x.com/hothingsgirlsay/status/2051375505362784316?s=46

“This is a masterclass in persuasion layering:

– Presuppositions disguised as questions
– Emotional stacking (past harm → present threat → urgency)
– Moral framing that makes disagreement feel unethical
– And a critical factor bypass at the end

“Even if you don’t understand…”

That line removes the need for thinking and replaces it with alignment.

That’s not accidental. That’s design.”

It covers things like the emotional manipulation we see.

The ‘if you don’t understand our identities, that is ok, you just need to support us any way you can’.

This speech she is analysing even uses moral arguments to support groups and people financially through ‘giving back’ or making purchase choices. And it is an interesting one because it uses the sacrifice argument we sometimes see. The ‘it is hard to make ethical decisions about supporting this group but it is worth it’.

The swerve that ‘well-informed people need to see us as people, not as political ideologue or ideological’ was a great to see this male speaker try to us.

He then swivels into the historic reference. The false leverage of historical groups opressed for being same sex attracted that actually have nothing to do with transgender identities. And then ties it to this ‘new wave of trans hate that seeks to erase’ trans people.

The next segment tries to then use the ‘you know us’ plea which reassures people that people with transgender identities are in everyone’s lives in an attempt to reassure people. MJ Murphy points this out as Proximity anchoring as a part of the emotional manipulation. Well, this one we know and what is strange is the number of times though, that activist posters accuse us of not knowing any trans people. It seems to always be an exaggeration - they are everywhere and never cause any concern or we have never met them.

I think she raises some good points here.

The most significant point though was the call to ‘bypass critical thinking’. That bit about ‘if you don’t understand us, that is ok, just support us’.