They're not really trans! (say the trans community)

[elviswhorley]

Hi all.

So I'm quite into internet culture and as such come across trends and I've noticed the community are turning against those they deem to be adopting a trans identity for nefarious purposes. (to get into women's spaces/to cause a fuss/gain attention/fulfil some personal sexual fantasy)

People like Lily Tino, who if you don’t know, he is known for spending a lot of time on TikTok with pigtails, bright lipstick, and girly dresses going to restaurants then feigning appetite-eradicating upset upon being called Sir by the poor staff who work for tips, and hinting that he would ruin their livelihood whilst proclaiming ‘it's fine’. ( TL:DR, he gaslights people for fun)

People like him, the trans rights community say, are ‘not really trans’ and ‘just pretending to be trans’. This is happening more and more and would have applied to people like Jessica Yaniv in the past.

And I invariably point out that in fact he is ‘not really A WOMAN' and is ‘pretending to be WOMAN’ and ask ‘how come you say 'he's not trans' and not 'he's not a woman'?’ I have never received a reply to my comments or questions.

Of course they cannot point this out because this exposes the entire thing. They're all pretending to be women and none of them are women. Isn't it telling that on criticising some of the men doing this they never, ever point this out?

It can wake up readers and even trans activists themselves. They're seeing the consequences of their own ideology and it's biting them in the butt and peaking everyone.

And I think this is an important question to ask and thing to point out and that you should all do this too.

They have woken up to the fact that defending anyone and everyone claiming to be trans works against them.

But they can't put the cat back in the bag can they?

The worst of the worst have ridden with this and become too obvious and I think it spells the end of the whole thing.

Not people wanting to be the opposite sex. That's always existed and always will exist. But this TWAW thing has to be over soon.

I just think we should hurry it along a bit.

And I think this is an important question to ask and thing to point out and that you should all do this too.

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I just think we should hurry it along a bit.

Er, OK. I mean it's not like the women on this board have ever done anything for the cause, right? 🤔

Pointing out the logical flaw in their arguments is pointless. Because their arguments are not based on logic.

But this is new.

They haven't outed their own kind as 'pretending' before.

It's not to convince them.

It's to nudge those reading comments on a video.

They haven't outed their own kind as 'pretending' before.

Of course they have. Isla Bryson, for instance. Or any other male who pretends to be female for a reason they don't like.

They only criticise Lily Tino because he draws attention they don't want.

Don't waste your time arguing with bots on the internet. If you want to make political change, do the hard yards: write to your MP, volunteer for women's organisations, get out the vote. It's boring and you don't get any likes, but at least those people are not AI slop from some guy with five hundred phones in Malaysia.

Another hard day in the content mines is about as useful as yelling at the mirror.

I don't. It's one comment that others will see on high traffic videos.

Done all the above <3

If it makes young people think twice, then it's ok with me.
OP, when you say you point it out, are your comments allowed to stand? Do the mods delete them? Do you get massive pushback? Do you get any supportive comments?

(Just FYI, you will get people's backs up on here, including mine, with your last sentence "And I think this is an important question to ask and thing to point out and that you should all do this too".
Because we do. And we have been doing so for a long time, in various ways.)

This isn't new at all. There has always been tension about who is 'true trans' among other trans-identified people. Many of what might be termed 'old school transsexuals' are in favour of the exact amount of gatekeeping that includes them and excludes others they don't approve of. They can be very sniffy about people they don't think are making the right level of effort.

It's kind of a lose-lose conundrum though. If you choose to die on the self-ID / everyone is valid hill then you are consistent, but you also find yourself defending obvious perverts and chancers. If you say that some are legit and some are not, you find yourself in the impossible situation of defining exactly where that line is and why these feelings/actions actually do make you a woman.

Blair White has created quite a career out of calling out other 'trans' for not being true 'trans', so this isn't new. I see it as all part of the 'community', which is coming across as a toxic cess pit full of bully's and drones.

TBF if the gay men whose past traumas led to them getting their knobs removed had taken this attitude years ago when straight, intact cross dressers and autogynephiles muscled in on their act, the whole situation would be very different today.

Some people do go all out in their support , didn't Sturgeon say she regretted saying Bryson wasn’t a woman creating that infamous rapist gender instead?

There is a school of thought thst you should have gender dysphoria to be considered trans and then on to that journey of medicalisation. Of course they are accused of gatekeeping and that special feelings top all. I do sort of feel sorry for old school transsexuals. People who have gone through counselling and surgeries and inoffensively keeping to themselves. Who are expected to then support Dave from accounts whose taken to turning up at work in fetish gear and using the ladies.