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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mothin Ali calls KJK a 'transphobe' and 'shit'

24 replies

ArabellaSaurus · 29/10/2025 15:11

https://x.com/MothinAli/status/1983517494212960326

'These transphobes don't just hate trans people, but they're generally quite shit, racists, islamophobes, shit politics, division, that's what they stand for. When I said our fight is one, I meant it, the same people coming after one minority group often target others. Legitimate concerns need space for discussion, hate doesn’t'

Unacceptable defamation and obscene personal attack from an elected politician.

https://archive.ph/wip/fyzr9

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ArabellaSaurus · 29/10/2025 15:15

https://www.leeds.gov.uk/councillors-and-democracy/code-of-conduct

'Everyone in public office at all levels; all who serve the public or deliver public services, including ministers, civil servants, councillors and local authority officers; should uphold the Seven Principles of Public Life, also known as the Nolan Principles. Building on these principles, the following general principles have been developed specifically for the role of councillor. In accordance with the public trust placed in me, on all occasions:

• I act with integrity and honesty;
• I act lawfully;
• I treat all persons fairly and with respect; and
• I lead by example and act in a way that secures public confidence in the role of councillor. '

...

You can complain about councillors and co-opted members of the council, or any of the Parish and Town Councils in the Leeds area by firstly sending an email to: [email protected].'

Councillor Code of Conduct | Leeds.gov.uk

The council has adopted a Code of Conduct which all councillors must abide by.

https://www.leeds.gov.uk/councillors-and-democracy/code-of-conduct

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ArabellaSaurus · 29/10/2025 15:19

https://greenparty.org.uk/members/code-of-conduct/

8.2 Members who dissent from a decision or an official policy must ensure they make it clear that they are expressing disagreement as an individual and not as a representative of the Party or any part of it. However they must take care to maintain civilised standards of conduct and to not bring the Party into disrepute while doing so.

8.5 Members who express opinions in a situation in which their membership of the Green Party is known must take care to not bring the party into disrepute.

9.1 The Green Party should be an organisation in which people can feel comfortable, feel welcome and enjoy being a member and taking part in its activities. Members’ behaviour towards each other and non-members should therefore be: tolerant, considerate, respectful and civil.

9.2 The Green Party should also be a space that is as safe or safer than society as a whole. Therefore discriminatory, oppressive or abusive behaviour should be prevented and stopped when it occurs. The aim is to provide an environment free of this. Any form of such behaviour is a breach of this Code, as is failure by a person in a role with responsibility, such as a Chair, Moderator or similar to take appropriate action to prevent or stop it. Members should also be aware of risks and act to mitigate them.

10.9 Members should communicate sensitively and courteously at all times with other members, whether face-to-face, by phone, by email, letter or in social media.

12.1 As the Green Party welcomes people from a wide range of backgrounds, members may encounter people who hold differing political or philosophical worldviews. Freedom of belief and the right to change that belief is a fundamental human right. Members should therefore show tolerance and respect towards people that hold political or philosophical worldviews that differ from their own.

If you would like to make a complaint, email [email protected]

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/10/2025 07:44

I imagine he’s going after her because she’s an easy target, to take the heat off his own perceived “transphobia” within the Green Party.

NeelyOHara · 30/10/2025 07:48

He sounds thick as pigshit to be honest, perfect for the Green Party.

Igneococcus · 30/10/2025 07:50

He used to come across quite well on the YT videos about his allotment, that mask has well and truly slipped.

ArabellaSaurus · 30/10/2025 08:16

Igneococcus · 30/10/2025 07:50

He used to come across quite well on the YT videos about his allotment, that mask has well and truly slipped.

I watched a bit of one of those, and he sounded like he was reading badly from a badly written script.

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Igneococcus · 30/10/2025 08:18

ArabellaSaurus · 30/10/2025 08:16

I watched a bit of one of those, and he sounded like he was reading badly from a badly written script.

I only ever watched small bits, dp used to watch his videos among many other allotmenteers and homesteaders videos.

ArabellaSaurus · 30/10/2025 08:19

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/10/2025 07:44

I imagine he’s going after her because she’s an easy target, to take the heat off his own perceived “transphobia” within the Green Party.

So it's a 'do it to Julia'?

Whatever the reason, I just find it utterly unacceptable that a party official call another person 'shit'. Dehumanising terms are one of the things that really push my buttons. It's unacceptable from someone in a position of some responsibility, as he is.

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AntiRacistFella · 30/10/2025 08:25

Note - the OP didn't have the integrity to mention the inflammatory, offensive and racist tweet that Mothin was replying to.

fromorbit · 30/10/2025 09:45

AntiRacistFella · 30/10/2025 08:25

Note - the OP didn't have the integrity to mention the inflammatory, offensive and racist tweet that Mothin was replying to.

Mothin didn't mention the racist sectarian massacre in Sudan by Muslims that KJK was reacting too either. Part of a war that has killed almost triple the number of people that have died in Gaza.
https://organiser.org/2025/10/29/323226/world/sudan-islamist-group-rsf-massacre-in-al-fasher-kills-over-2000-non-muslims-as-ethnic-cleansing-sweeps-darfur/

KJK thinks Islam is a violent sexist religion. She criticises it all the time. She gets to do that. Just as Muslims get to slag off other religions - which they do all the time.

Mothin doesn't believe TWAW we know this as he refuses to say it. He is just is using hatred for KJK, as a shield to impress TAs inside the Greens.

He agrees with her that women are real, just thinks they are less important than men like all religious conservatives and need to dress in a certain way.

Mothin himself is an impressive example that KJK's criticisms of Islam have evidence. His automatic reaction to October 7th was celebration, not a sickening feeling of dread as another act of violence would start a cycle of death all over again.

AntiRacistFella · 30/10/2025 09:59

Well there are a billion Muslims in the world, mostly peaceful, mostly not in Sudan. Certainly, violence has not been a monopoly of any particular religion or ideology either historically or at the present time. So you have to question the motivation of those seeming to seek to sow discord against Muslims right now, particularly in the UK.

I can't speak to Mothin's personal views on trans issues. Like any politician he is going to emphasise where he agrees with his allies, and downplay any disagreements. But he is not wrong to call out anyone who is putting out offensive and inflammatory tweets regardless of how it plays in the trans debate.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 30/10/2025 10:03

That..... is a councillor?

That person talking in the manner and language of a teenaged boy kicking around with his mates and looking big while his mum's not in earshot? That is an adult in a responsible position with influence is it?

And then they wonder why the electorate at this point have no respect or time left for the system and anyone in it.

Seriestwo · 30/10/2025 10:12

The Nolan principles apply to all elected representatives?

because I can see a couple of issues elsewhere too.

Justme56 · 30/10/2025 10:34

AntiRacistFella · 30/10/2025 09:59

Well there are a billion Muslims in the world, mostly peaceful, mostly not in Sudan. Certainly, violence has not been a monopoly of any particular religion or ideology either historically or at the present time. So you have to question the motivation of those seeming to seek to sow discord against Muslims right now, particularly in the UK.

I can't speak to Mothin's personal views on trans issues. Like any politician he is going to emphasise where he agrees with his allies, and downplay any disagreements. But he is not wrong to call out anyone who is putting out offensive and inflammatory tweets regardless of how it plays in the trans debate.

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KJK is allowed to say what she wishes, as is AM. Unfortunately AM is a politician and as a public servant, he needs to rise above provocation and put a bin on his abusive language. He is paid by the tax payer to represent the people - it’s a bad look to be name calling - very immature considering his role.

ScrollingLeaves · 30/10/2025 10:43

ArabellaSaurus · 29/10/2025 15:11

https://x.com/MothinAli/status/1983517494212960326

'These transphobes don't just hate trans people, but they're generally quite shit, racists, islamophobes, shit politics, division, that's what they stand for. When I said our fight is one, I meant it, the same people coming after one minority group often target others. Legitimate concerns need space for discussion, hate doesn’t'

Unacceptable defamation and obscene personal attack from an elected politician.

https://archive.ph/wip/fyzr9

Worst of all it is a very stupid politician.

fromorbit · 30/10/2025 11:14

X has a huge bunch of guys on it who want to restart the crusades and use way way more abusive language than KJK.

Mothin targets a woman instead. Interesting choice.

This is because Mothin thinks MEN are allowed to insult and even kill people if they feel like it. He instinctively understands that and both fears and loves it. Obviously he is going slag off the IDF.... but war and violence as a whole that is glorious.

Women calling out violent bullshit is a threat to the crazy wargames some men enjoy.

Bad news Mothin women get to say things. Ask questions. Aja has a great one which he hasn't answered yet.

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Hey MothinAli out of interest which section of the mosque do transwomen pray in?

This gets to the heart of the nonsense.
What a hypocrite Mothin is. Not a single mosque in the UK says trans stuff is real.

Loads of women might be another gender according to Green party rules so why are there not a bunch of women in the various men only mosques.

Worse yet the Green party insists that non binary people are a thing.

Where is the Mosque section for Non binaries and gender fluid people?

Spacek · 30/10/2025 11:31

AntiRacistFella · 30/10/2025 08:25

Note - the OP didn't have the integrity to mention the inflammatory, offensive and racist tweet that Mothin was replying to.

What was he replying to? I'm not on twitter

Spacek · 30/10/2025 11:33

Spacek · 30/10/2025 11:31

What was he replying to? I'm not on twitter

It's ok, I've found it.

KJK said "Muslims around the globe are committing genocide against Christians".

Which is racist.

Swiftasthewind · 30/10/2025 11:40

Spacek · 30/10/2025 11:33

It's ok, I've found it.

KJK said "Muslims around the globe are committing genocide against Christians".

Which is racist.

And it’s not even true. You are at more danger of a Christian as a Muslim than the other way round. I can’t believe she is allowed to spout such hateful rhetoric online like that.

CatProcrastinator1 · 30/10/2025 11:54

Swiftasthewind · 30/10/2025 11:40

And it’s not even true. You are at more danger of a Christian as a Muslim than the other way round. I can’t believe she is allowed to spout such hateful rhetoric online like that.

Could you let us have your evidence for this statement @Swiftasthewind?

Swiftasthewind · 30/10/2025 11:58

CatProcrastinator1 · 30/10/2025 11:54

Could you let us have your evidence for this statement @Swiftasthewind?

Google Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Also, given Britain is largely responsible for the situation in the Gaza, the blame for that can fall at the feet of Christianity as well.

ArabellaSaurus · 30/10/2025 12:29

AntiRacistFella · 30/10/2025 08:25

Note - the OP didn't have the integrity to mention the inflammatory, offensive and racist tweet that Mothin was replying to.

Millions of people say all sorts of things online, day in and day out. A councillor calling a woman 'shit' in public and accusing her of 'transphobia' is inflammatory, abusive, divisive, and irresponsible.

Public servants, elected and on salaries from the taxpayer, have standards to abide by.

If you disagree with a statement, it's perfectly possible to counter it without using slurs and dehumanising language.

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ArabellaSaurus · 30/10/2025 12:43

And KJK's statement is entirely irrelevant, tbh.

We don't (yet) see Keir Starmer responding to LarginIt457 on X with 'this man is a racist shit'.

I mean, Trump may come out with these kind of pronouncements. But the UK needs to do better than that. We need politicians who set standards, not undermine them.

The whole political situation is febrile right now; politicians' job is to bring people together, lower the temperature, encourage respectful discourse.

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Tofufuton · 30/10/2025 13:43

Swiftasthewind · 30/10/2025 11:40

And it’s not even true. You are at more danger of a Christian as a Muslim than the other way round. I can’t believe she is allowed to spout such hateful rhetoric online like that.

Absolute bollocks.

Have a little look at what's been happening to Christians in the Middle East, especially Iraq, before typing your stupid, dangerous lies.

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