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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Grokipedia.com version 0.1 is now live. Efforts to replace wikipedia with a less biased root source for the world.

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 28/10/2025 16:24

https://grokipedia.com/page/Transgender_rights_in_the_United_Kingdom

For example, the above.

Whatever people think about Elon, underestimating him is never a good idea.

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 28/10/2025 22:41

Christinapple · 28/10/2025 22:37

Peace be upon her??? Is she a prophet from God or something now?

Except possible potential harassment (she has singled out individual trans people for her followers to harass) she hasn't directly threatened violence against LGBT people or their supporters (to my knowledge, I haven't seen all her posts) like GL has.

Yeah but a dude in the ladies does deserve to be punched in the balls IMO

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PollyNomial · 28/10/2025 22:52

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 28/10/2025 21:49

Graham Linehan, Helen Staniland, Megan Murphy were, I suppose it depends on who you consider 'of any note'. 🤔

None of them.

PollyNomial · 28/10/2025 22:55

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 28/10/2025 21:45

People you don’t agree with can’t collectively be called Nazis…

IMHO, Nazis posting white supremicist great replacement rubbish and more can legitimately be called Nazis. Before EM they got banned. No longer in the cess pit of a forum.

Summerhillsquare · 28/10/2025 23:07

ApplebyArrows · 28/10/2025 21:04

Neither Musk (a right-wing bigot) or his stupid AI are free from bias. How about you stop infecting a feminist board with this toxic rubbish because it happens to somewhat align with the commonsense position on one particular issue?

Amen. These tech bros are a danger to women, musk is simply trying to take down the one who hates us less.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 28/10/2025 23:08

Is it a full moon because all the loonies are out in force. 🤣

Howseitgoin · 28/10/2025 23:44

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 28/10/2025 21:42

Yes Tesla has collapsed. Absolutely. Can’t even give those shares away.

be a grown up and separate not liking someone and achievements.

bet Grokipedia outshines Wiki in audience within 18 months.

Um, his proven incompetency & corruption is unrelated to whether I personally 'like' him.

You are only as good as your last achievement of which was the monumental disaster that was Doge. And it's not just that he achieved the opposite of what he said he would do but that he achieved his intention at destroying any regulatory checks on his businesses. That you can seriously consider this person as a trustworthy source of information after this shameless assault on checks & balances not to mention flooding X with algorithmic propaganda then I have a bridge to sell you.

The willingness to look the other way by GCs as their 'allies' burn civilisation down ought to give anyone with half a brain cell pause about their true nature.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 28/10/2025 23:56

Howseitgoin · 28/10/2025 23:44

Um, his proven incompetency & corruption is unrelated to whether I personally 'like' him.

You are only as good as your last achievement of which was the monumental disaster that was Doge. And it's not just that he achieved the opposite of what he said he would do but that he achieved his intention at destroying any regulatory checks on his businesses. That you can seriously consider this person as a trustworthy source of information after this shameless assault on checks & balances not to mention flooding X with algorithmic propaganda then I have a bridge to sell you.

The willingness to look the other way by GCs as their 'allies' burn civilisation down ought to give anyone with half a brain cell pause about their true nature.

truly the worlds richest person, who reduced the cost to orbit by a factor of 20, created the electric car market, rebuilt X as an actual free speech bastion, got Trump elected and by doing so had the largest effect on the fight back against transgender nonsense - is incompetent.

Thats before you notice he's the only person who has made any headway getting the species interplanetary. what a big fat failure.

You can hate him as much as you like but he's succeeded far and beyond you (and me)

Elon Musk's most recent major achievement, as of October 28, 2025, was becoming the first person in history to reach a net worth exceeding $500 billion on October 1, 2025

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 28/10/2025 23:57

@PollyNomial @Howseitgoin are you a double team on the sofa together or just one guy watching chaturbate in one corner and Edge and Chrome open at the same time with one mumsnet account logged in in each of them?

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Howseitgoin · 29/10/2025 00:11

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 28/10/2025 23:56

truly the worlds richest person, who reduced the cost to orbit by a factor of 20, created the electric car market, rebuilt X as an actual free speech bastion, got Trump elected and by doing so had the largest effect on the fight back against transgender nonsense - is incompetent.

Thats before you notice he's the only person who has made any headway getting the species interplanetary. what a big fat failure.

You can hate him as much as you like but he's succeeded far and beyond you (and me)

Elon Musk's most recent major achievement, as of October 28, 2025, was becoming the first person in history to reach a net worth exceeding $500 billion on October 1, 2025

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"who reduced the cost to orbit by a factor of 20, created the electric car market"

Perspective matters.

Musk's 300 odd million campaign dollars & support on X effectively ushered in a climate change denier who immediately went to work smashing down all climate change progress including the subsidies for electric cars that largely contributed to Tesla's collapse.

"rebuilt X as an actual free speech bastion"

For a market place ideas to function, ideas need to be heard of which Musk's algorithmic controls easily stifled.

"got Trump elected and by doing so had the largest effect on the fight back against transgender nonsense - is incompetent."

There's this thing called 'the 3 branches of government' in the US one of which is the judiciary that Trump has been losing to hand over fist including for trans issues. Executive orders don't mean a thing if they can't stand up in court.

"Thats before you notice he's the only person who has made any headway getting the species interplanetary"

Lol, a fool & his money are soon parted…
The idea that interplanetary travel is a priority let alone even ranks as an issue is for those drunk on ketamine kool aid…

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 29/10/2025 00:15

Howseitgoin · 29/10/2025 00:11

"who reduced the cost to orbit by a factor of 20, created the electric car market"

Perspective matters.

Musk's 300 odd million campaign dollars & support on X effectively ushered in a climate change denier who immediately went to work smashing down all climate change progress including the subsidies for electric cars that largely contributed to Tesla's collapse.

"rebuilt X as an actual free speech bastion"

For a market place ideas to function, ideas need to be heard of which Musk's algorithmic controls easily stifled.

"got Trump elected and by doing so had the largest effect on the fight back against transgender nonsense - is incompetent."

There's this thing called 'the 3 branches of government' in the US one of which is the judiciary that Trump has been losing to hand over fist including for trans issues. Executive orders don't mean a thing if they can't stand up in court.

"Thats before you notice he's the only person who has made any headway getting the species interplanetary"

Lol, a fool & his money are soon parted…
The idea that interplanetary travel is a priority let alone even ranks as an issue is for those drunk on ketamine kool aid…

Is it like gogglebox on your sofa, except you're both angry and sad?

Everything I said is true, I don't care if you like it or not xxx

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EveryMeandEveryYou · 29/10/2025 00:19

His AI sex bots that he thinks are going to help repopulate the planet and actually train men how to date...the settings for your girlfriend are submissive or super-submissive.

SionnachRuadh · 29/10/2025 00:22

Lord knows I have my reservations about Elon, but I love that for the FWR lefties, it's not enough to have specific reservations about Elon, one has to loudly and demonstratively denounce everything that's even vaguely associated with him, like as if he were the devil himself.

These are often the same people who refuse to distance themselves from Martin James Smith and his associates. Funny old world.

Howseitgoin · 29/10/2025 00:24

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 29/10/2025 00:15

Is it like gogglebox on your sofa, except you're both angry and sad?

Everything I said is true, I don't care if you like it or not xxx

Gotta hand it Musk & the billionaire class tho, they correctly calculate there's always an endless supply of fawning fanboy/girl minions willing to cuck themselves on behalf of the 'rightful' ruling class…

SionnachRuadh · 29/10/2025 00:25

Howseitgoin · 29/10/2025 00:24

Gotta hand it Musk & the billionaire class tho, they correctly calculate there's always an endless supply of fawning fanboy/girl minions willing to cuck themselves on behalf of the 'rightful' ruling class…

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Yet again, Howie is unable to avoid displaying his misogyny.

Nice one, pal. You never disappoint us.

Howseitgoin · 29/10/2025 00:28

SionnachRuadh · 29/10/2025 00:25

Yet again, Howie is unable to avoid displaying his misogyny.

Nice one, pal. You never disappoint us.

"his"

If only you could comprehend the misogyny in your own assumptions…

eatfigs · 29/10/2025 00:30

Musk is a thin-skinned bully, a charlatan with deep pockets, who likes to take credit for others' work. Like he didn't found Tesla but likes to pretend he did.

That said, I feel like Grokipedia may be an interesting application of AI but from browsing a few pages it looks to be mostly based on Wikipedia, except with less visibility into how each page has been written. So really what is the point.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 29/10/2025 00:30

Fascinating, though very long, article about how one Wiki admin has been gaming the site rules and processes for years to promote his personal agendas. Especially revealing on how the requirement for Reliable Sources and references that should keep contributors honest can itself be manipulated.

Written by an ex-Mormon furry no less, and no the worse for it.

www.tracingwoodgrains.com/p/reliable-sources-how-wikipedia-admin

SionnachRuadh · 29/10/2025 00:36

FlirtsWithRhinos · 29/10/2025 00:30

Fascinating, though very long, article about how one Wiki admin has been gaming the site rules and processes for years to promote his personal agendas. Especially revealing on how the requirement for Reliable Sources and references that should keep contributors honest can itself be manipulated.

Written by an ex-Mormon furry no less, and no the worse for it.

www.tracingwoodgrains.com/p/reliable-sources-how-wikipedia-admin

Larry Sanger, one of the founders of Wikipedia, has been banging on about this for years, and in particular how the "reliable sources" requirement was snuck in the back door.

That means, for UK stories, the BBC and the Guardian. The Times might be used with caution, the Telegraph with even more caution, and the Mail is totally blacklisted and may not be used at all.

Oh, and Pink News is a reliable source!

That means, if there's a scandal in the UK and the BBC and Guardian are not covering it, as far as Wikipedia is concerned it never happened. Which is important because of how often lazy journalists rely on Wikipedia.

Personally, I'll still use Wikipedia for questions like "what is the population of Mogadishu", but it's worse than useless for any issue of even slight political or cultural controversy. I stopped being an editor years ago, but once you've seen the back end, the bullying cliques of activist editors with bias on full display, you don't ever forget it.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 29/10/2025 00:40

eatfigs · 29/10/2025 00:30

Musk is a thin-skinned bully, a charlatan with deep pockets, who likes to take credit for others' work. Like he didn't found Tesla but likes to pretend he did.

That said, I feel like Grokipedia may be an interesting application of AI but from browsing a few pages it looks to be mostly based on Wikipedia, except with less visibility into how each page has been written. So really what is the point.

Accuracy. Less bias.

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 29/10/2025 00:44

Howseitgoin · 29/10/2025 00:24

Gotta hand it Musk & the billionaire class tho, they correctly calculate there's always an endless supply of fawning fanboy/girl minions willing to cuck themselves on behalf of the 'rightful' ruling class…

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See you lose any argument by using the term “cuck”.

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eatfigs · 29/10/2025 00:44

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 29/10/2025 00:40

Accuracy. Less bias.

It'll still be biased, differently to Wikipedia, but there'll be no Talk pages or page history to browse through to get a feel for what's been left out. AI is always bullshitting in conversations, I don't see why this would be different tbh.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 29/10/2025 00:46

eatfigs · 29/10/2025 00:44

It'll still be biased, differently to Wikipedia, but there'll be no Talk pages or page history to browse through to get a feel for what's been left out. AI is always bullshitting in conversations, I don't see why this would be different tbh.

Because I looked at about ten pages on both and compared them. Graham linehan was a good one. As was Mumsnet.

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 29/10/2025 06:33

Ignoring the frothing at the mouth EM seems to provoke in the woke, Wikipedia has been a source of mockery for being a reliable source of knowledge since the beginning. Recently it's become just a parody of knowledge so a new attempt to create an online reference tool is interesting. However Large Language Models are in their infancy and are not as good as the investors in them would like us to believe so it remains too be seen whether this one is any better. It's always good to have an alternative though, maybe the competition will lead to an improvement in both.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/10/2025 07:51

SionnachRuadh · 29/10/2025 00:36

Larry Sanger, one of the founders of Wikipedia, has been banging on about this for years, and in particular how the "reliable sources" requirement was snuck in the back door.

That means, for UK stories, the BBC and the Guardian. The Times might be used with caution, the Telegraph with even more caution, and the Mail is totally blacklisted and may not be used at all.

Oh, and Pink News is a reliable source!

That means, if there's a scandal in the UK and the BBC and Guardian are not covering it, as far as Wikipedia is concerned it never happened. Which is important because of how often lazy journalists rely on Wikipedia.

Personally, I'll still use Wikipedia for questions like "what is the population of Mogadishu", but it's worse than useless for any issue of even slight political or cultural controversy. I stopped being an editor years ago, but once you've seen the back end, the bullying cliques of activist editors with bias on full display, you don't ever forget it.

I find the Talk pages quite entertaining.