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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

LGBT+ banned in armed services?

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SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 27/10/2025 23:47

There have been a lot of reports today in various media channels describing Charles' first official engagement in support of the LGBT+ community.

All of the reports that I have heard today have talked of an LGBT or LGBT+ ban in the armed services that was overturned in 2000. A sad history but one that the services are trying to rectify

My understanding is that the ban was on homosexuality and not on having a transgender identity (or any of the other '+' gender identities that seem much more recent that 2000).

Is this correct?

King unveils new memorial to LGBT veterans after gay ban campaign - BBC News

King Charles looks on while holding a ceremony programme booklet that has the LGBT+ rainbow flag colours on its cover, he's wearing a formal suit and is sitting next to various Army officers wearing formal military attire including military hats.

King unveils new memorial to LGBT veterans after gay ban campaign

A memorial is unveiled dedicated to gay military personnel and to those who served during the armed forces gay ban.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr7m8kzgy77o

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CombatBarbie · 28/10/2025 01:05

It was purely the lesbian and gay, I joined in 97 and never knew of any lesbians being booted out, in fact it was rife for trying to "turn" the fresh out of training girls gay.

IwantToRetire · 28/10/2025 01:16

A bit off topic but realised I dont know since the TRA explosion what the Army's position is on trans persons joining up currently.

I suspect they have been Stonewalled as well.

IwantToRetire · 28/10/2025 01:18

IwantToRetire · 28/10/2025 01:16

A bit off topic but realised I dont know since the TRA explosion what the Army's position is on trans persons joining up currently.

I suspect they have been Stonewalled as well.

Silly me, of course they have.
https://jobs.army.mod.uk/regular-army/inclusion-values/lgbt/

CombatBarbie · 28/10/2025 01:33

IwantToRetire · 28/10/2025 01:18

Yeah its all been changed to suit the inclusive narrative and from the ones that have done, do appear to be genuine and fully transitioned. Has been for a while but I can guarantee theres no pussyfooting about single/mixed spaces. Im not long out of the services but havent heard of any cases of misuse of toilets/assaults etc even when I was in. Ordinary Male on female assaults however do still happen......

IwantToRetire · 28/10/2025 02:00

Ordinary Male on female assaults however do still happen......

That I have heard about. Too often.

thornbury · 28/10/2025 04:28

I was in the army in the 80s, you had to leave when you got pregnant. Having a baby? Your military career is over, off you go!

CombatBarbie · 28/10/2025 05:31

thornbury · 28/10/2025 04:28

I was in the army in the 80s, you had to leave when you got pregnant. Having a baby? Your military career is over, off you go!

When I had my first DD in 2007 the rules were changing for mat leave. It was only 6 weeks full pay but changed 1 Apr to 6 months. My due date was 31 Mar so had to buy the midwife chocolates to change my due date to 1 Apr....she didn't arrive till the 7th anyway.

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 28/10/2025 09:17

IwantToRetire · 28/10/2025 00:57

It is and was about same sex attracted people, ie LGB

The LGB Alliance wrote a letter complaining about history being re-written a while ago, and it seems they were ignored.

I cant find where it was originally published but links to copies of it here https://x.com/AllianceLGB/status/1982867962651406416?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet and here https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1272368788265757&set=pcb.1272368874932415

I had to read this sentence a couple of times to try to understand the actual meaning
.. you replied that a person who was transgender was effectively treated as if they were lesbian or gay for the duration of the ban.

My first read was that there was a specific example of a transgender person who had suffered due to the ban.

On second read I noticed the 'for the duration of the ban' tacked on the end. I think that the Defense People Secretariat is saying that had there been a transgender person at that time then they would have been dismissed using the legislation.

Are there any actual cases where people were dismissed due to a transgender or other gender identity?

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SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 28/10/2025 09:23

The BBC reporting was jarring and inaccurate.
All the reports that I heard talked about an LGBT or LGBT+ ban which it was not.
Forced teaming at its worst

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TheCatsTongue · 28/10/2025 16:55

Non-binary and the rest of the + hadn't even been invented when the gay ban was in place.

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