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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lords plot to derail Labour’s trans guidance on single-sex spaces

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GreenUp · 18/10/2025 03:36

Not sure if this has been posted in any of the threads but the usual suspects in the House of Lords are plotting to derail the EHRC guidance. It all sounds highly duplicitous.

Unfortunately I don't have a share token.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/house-of-lords-trans-guidance-ehrc-t90bkt0rc

The following are some excerpts from the article. The whole article has a lot more detail.

"A group of peers is at the centre of a House of Lords plot to derail guidance protecting women’s single-sex spaces, leaked documents have revealed.
The group, which includes a former head of Stonewall and one of its founder members, is seeking to scupper rules drawn up by the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) by delaying the government’s process until a new chair of the regulator is appointed.

A source told The Times that Lord Collins of Highbury, the government’s equalities spokesman in the House of Lords, had been involved in “strategy development” with the group. Neither he nor the Office for Equality and Opportunity has denied the claim, repeatedly refusing to say whether he had met or been contacted by the group.
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The strategy outlined plans to present the group as “constructive partners” while pushing for additional due diligence on the guidance, which critics suggested was a move designed to delay implementation. It said they would push the government to “use the forthcoming appointment of a new chair and additional commissioners as an opportunity to restore balance and credibility to the EHRC’s leadership”.
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Peers were encouraged to table written and oral questions to ensure ministers confirm that the guidance has undergone proper consultation, legal review, and equality impact assessments, and to raise concerns about “balance and credibility” in upcoming EHRC appointments.

The group includes a number of peers including Hunt, the Stonewall co-founder Lord Cashman, the former Labour health minister Baroness Thornton, the former Scottish Labour leader Baroness Alexander, the Lib Dem peer Baroness Barker, Baroness Chakrabarti, Baroness Ramsey and Baroness Donaghy."

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MouldyPeppers · 21/10/2025 08:14

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 20/10/2025 08:36

There's no legal mechanism to challenge a Supreme Court judgment in the UK.

There is - it is new legislation in parliament.

Chersfrozenface · 21/10/2025 08:19

MouldyPeppers · 21/10/2025 08:14

There is - it is new legislation in parliament.

Edit: ignore, I misinterpreted a post.

WandaSiri · 21/10/2025 08:20

MouldyPeppers · 21/10/2025 08:14

There is - it is new legislation in parliament.

Passing new legislation would not be challenging the decision, it would be amending or replacing the EA. To challenge the decision would be to put forward arguments in a higher court of law to say why the SC judges misinterpreted the EA. There is no higher court in the UK, therefore the decision cannot be challenged in the UK.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 21/10/2025 08:24

MouldyPeppers · 21/10/2025 08:14

There is - it is new legislation in parliament.

That's not challenging a Supreme Court judgment, it's changing the law, which is completely different.

INeedAPensieve · 21/10/2025 11:54

Justme56 · 18/10/2025 13:24

I’m not sure who Joani Reid is, but she’s telling the activist Lords to back off. Nice to see some Labour MPs standing up for women.

x.com/joanireid/status/1979484219689644151?s=46&t=ZX_bLozRqm8etdGICMcAvA

Oh good for her!!! She's my local MP that's great news. I wrote to her about women's rights ages ago, didn't get a reply but good to see her doing this...

ArabellaSaurus · 21/10/2025 12:01

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 21/10/2025 08:24

That's not challenging a Supreme Court judgment, it's changing the law, which is completely different.

Yes. Love to see how a campaign to change the EA to say that men can be women will go down with the electorate, the HoC, and the HoL.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/10/2025 12:05

ArabellaSaurus · 21/10/2025 12:01

Yes. Love to see how a campaign to change the EA to say that men can be women will go down with the electorate, the HoC, and the HoL.

Indeed. This time the messaging will be clear:

"There's a group of sad men who want access again to girls and women undressing so we must change the law"
"There's a group of mediocre male athletes unhappy at having to compete fairly with other men so they demand access to women's sport so they can benefit and cheat their way tp medals"
etc

Not gonna happen 😄

WandaSiri · 21/10/2025 12:05

ArabellaSaurus · 21/10/2025 12:01

Yes. Love to see how a campaign to change the EA to say that men can be women will go down with the electorate, the HoC, and the HoL.

Deleted because not directly relevant to your post. Sorreeee.

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